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Brag 48 21.82%
Beat 36 16.36%
Variance 60 27.27%
Fuck OOT 23 10.45%
Gildwulf for mod 14 6.36%
BASTARD!!! 39 17.73%
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:51 AM
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Default Moral relativity

Or E = Whatever the hell you want

Quick question (and yes this is a trap)
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:54 AM
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Default Re: Moral relativity

I'll go with no.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:57 AM
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Default Re: Moral relativity

i'll go for no too. And that is because most (not all) christian systems are strongly biased in favor of a tyrannical approach to life.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: Moral relativity

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i'll go for no too. And that is because most (not all) christian systems are strongly biased in favor of a tyrannical approach to life.

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Prove objectively that tyranny is worse than a lack of tyranny. I'd be interested in hearing you do it in a way that (when consistently applied) doesn't make you an ACist.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: Moral relativity


Morals are defined by the society you live in. There is no absolute standard that they follow. Most have developed in a particular society to be beneficial for the common good. When one society's morals differ enough from another's, war sometimes breaks out.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: Moral relativity

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Morals are defined by the society you live in. There is no absolute standard that they follow. Most have developed in a particular society to be beneficial for the common good. When one society's morals differ enough from another's, war sometimes breaks out.

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Are your personal morals any better or worse than my personal morals? To be able to say yes you have to give reference to an external method of verification I don't accept "because I say so".
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:48 PM
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Morals are defined by the society you live in. There is no absolute standard that they follow. Most have developed in a particular society to be beneficial for the common good. When one society's morals differ enough from another's, war sometimes breaks out.

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Add "All" as the first word for emphasis, and QFT.

The problem with the OP is that the answer can really never be "yes", even though I voted yes. The gotcha on the yes side is that a "valid moral system" that lives within and depends on a society that has a different "valid moral system" is rendered invalid by that dependency.
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:11 PM
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i'll go for no too. And that is because most (not all) christian systems are strongly biased in favor of a tyrannical approach to life.

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[X] Christian bashing
[ ] America bashing
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:47 AM
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Moral relativity is academic dogma. Good luck bucking a propaganda trend of that magnitude.

As foundational operating principles go, this one is the ultimate poison for western society as currently configured.
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Old 11-13-2007, 10:22 AM
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If you chose no could you please post the objective external standard you use to tell if a system of morality is valid or not.
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