The feared turn mincheckraise...

[urbanati]

Villian is 52/24/1.8. He is too active really...
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
4 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $191.00
Button: $111.65
SB: $702.55
urbanati: $207.00

Pre-flop: (4 players) urbanati is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">urbanati raises to $8</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($16, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">urbanati bets $12</font>, SB calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($40, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">urbanati bets $30</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $60</font>, urbanati...

[shpanko]

I guess fold, it's s [censored] spot though because he might do this with some Jx hands and maybe even as a bluff,

what about (and I know this sounds retarded) min-raising here for a free-showdown?

[carnivalhobo]

i shove

[KhalynYohrk]

With those stats, I guess you either put him on the 8 and fold or just get it in. Looks like fish got chips and is trying to muscle to me. Id ship it in, I think you are good here enough vs this villain.

[Nielsio]

Meh, I really couldn't fault you for calling and calling all riverbets except hearts, J or A. Bet if he checks.

[wrkingtobegreat]

I hate folding here.

[martijn]

pretty nasty, but I shove.

[Casper05]

I think shoving is gross..what % of the time did he really float Jx or raise the turn with a draw, and from there what % of the time do you think he will call our shove with it (since that is all we beat that calls a shove)?

If you want to get it in, just call and let him shove river...or value shove it yourself if he checks.

[carnivalhobo]

guys we have an overpair and its BvB and the villain sucks

[CanuckEh]

call , call river?