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Old 07-13-2007, 08:24 AM
g33z3r g33z3r is offline
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Default Re: WSOP player claims he folded AA on the bubble

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said he'd spent $8 qualifying, and if he came back with $20K, his wife would get off his back about playing poker

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sounds like +++EV to me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-13-2007, 08:46 AM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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if i held AA and every person went all in before me I'd cream myself in excitement

you're either almost guaranteed to cash after one hand

or you save yourself 15 hours of stress by getting knocked out early

it's win-win [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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yeah but dont you think you could push a bigger edge later on?
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Old 07-13-2007, 09:28 AM
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Default Re: WSOP player claims he folded AA on the bubble

"Even if he bought in with 10k, he could still fold there. He just wants to prove to himself or whoever that he can play with the best of them."

And folding has just proved that he cannot. But God bless those players who play that way (and I agree: he probably wasn't the only one to do it). It just makes it juicier for the rest of us, who aren't so pround of our -EV plays.
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Old 07-13-2007, 10:34 AM
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Default Re: WSOP player claims he folded AA on the bubble

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I don't mean to start one of these threads, but

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I don't mean to reply but why did you?
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Old 07-13-2007, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: WSOP player claims he folded AA on the bubble

Three players left in tournament.

Player A 1,000,000 chips
Player B 999,000 chips
You 1,000 chips

Player A goes all in, Player B calls, you look down at AA.

Foldfoldfoldfoldfold.
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Old 07-13-2007, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: WSOP player claims he folded AA on the bubble

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"Even if he bought in with 10k, he could still fold there. He just wants to prove to himself or whoever that he can play with the best of them."

And folding has just proved that he cannot. But God bless those players who play that way (and I agree: he probably wasn't the only one to do it). It just makes it juicier for the rest of us, who aren't so pround of our -EV plays.

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Oh get over yourself... either respond to the other posts and explain logically why they are wrong, or don't post. I hate this smug attitude "ah what a newb lol well more money for those of us in the know" attitude.
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Old 07-13-2007, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: WSOP player claims he folded AA on the bubble

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But say that a player, Jim, has $1,000 in his bank account, and he has a 20k chip stack with the blinds 2-4k, we are one player from the money so folding in is not a problem. Jim gets AA, but the big stack raises to 15k in front of him, so he would call Jim's all in... lets also assume Jim knows for a fact he is a 75-25 favorite.


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I think you could construct a lot of realistic-sounding hypotheticals where folding AA on the bubble makes perfect sense from a "diminishing marginal utility of wealth" perspective if for some reason a player was forced to play in the Main Event.

However, someone with only $1,000 in assets should not be playing in a $10K poker tournament. This is not +EV for them no matter how good they are. They've already made such a huge mistake by entering that tournament that what they decide to do with AA on the bubble is really the least of their problems.
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Old 07-13-2007, 11:09 AM
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if my life and children's lives were on the line for me to cash...id still go all in with aces there

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Movie-avatar theorem in action?
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Old 07-13-2007, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: WSOP player claims he folded AA on the bubble

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However, someone with only $1,000 in assets should not be playing in a $10K poker tournament. This is not +EV for them no matter how good they are.

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Do you know the difference between bankroll management and expected value?
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Old 07-13-2007, 11:18 AM
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if my life and children's lives were on the line for me to cash...id still go all in with aces there

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And the added bonus is that if you get lucky, you won't have to go through the time and expense of a divorce, or of hiding your money to avoid paying child support...Good Thinking!!!

--Zetack
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