10-20 v Mizzles w/ JJ

Irish Mafia · #1 10-13-2007, 05:11 PM

villain is Mizzles. He can take very strange lines - and seems to like to put moves on me. Thoughts?

Full Tilt Poker, $10/$20 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $2,000
Hero (CO): $2,542
BTN: $4,877.50
SB: $380
BB: $4,675

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG raises to $75, Hero calls $75, 3 folds

Flop: ($180) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG bets $140, Hero raises to $490, UTG calls $350

Turn: ($1,160) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero...

Requin · #2 10-13-2007, 05:21 PM

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Irish Mafia · #3 10-13-2007, 05:29 PM

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I guess that indicates that this is an easy bet. I guess my issue is I rarely take this line - I'm usually rr'ing pre. In any event, I know what I read his hand for - but i'm curious if everyone agrees.

MATT111 · #4 10-13-2007, 05:37 PM

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I guess that indicates that this is an easy bet. I guess my issue is I rarely take this line - I'm usually rr'ing pre. In any event, I know what I read his hand for - but i'm curious if everyone agrees.

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I`d read his hand for an overpair. Either AA/KK looking to get it in on the turn or a medium one that is trying to read your actions on subsequent streets to make a decision. What are you reading him for? I am not decided on the flop raise yet but tend to think it is bad unless you have a pretty good read on him.

EmpireMaker2 · #5 10-13-2007, 05:44 PM

I bet and hope he stacks off with 4's-10s which he probably won't do......This is tizerd right?

Requin · #6 10-13-2007, 05:43 PM

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I guess that indicates that this is an easy bet. I guess my issue is I rarely take this line - I'm usually rr'ing pre. In any event, I know what I read his hand for - but i'm curious if everyone agrees.

[/ QUOTE ]Flop is pretty bad if your not shoving this turn.

Irish Mafia · #7 10-13-2007, 05:56 PM

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I guess that indicates that this is an easy bet. I guess my issue is I rarely take this line - I'm usually rr'ing pre. In any event, I know what I read his hand for - but i'm curious if everyone agrees.

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Well I did shove turn (rightly or wrongly, some people have advocated checking behind, and trying to extract value on the river...which I think may be the superior line).

I don't want to give away too much of my read on him - as we play together quite a bit. But is raising the flop here ever a good idea?

And EM2 - yes, I believe this is Tizerd. And obviously I thought he was capable of calling w/ medium pairs - otherwise i would not have shoved [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

jfish · #8 10-13-2007, 05:44 PM

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reup · #9 10-13-2007, 05:25 PM

if he's folding 88 on the turn to a bet and c/shoving qq+ checking + reeval river would be best but since your hand is underrepped b/f?

PerDoom · #10 10-13-2007, 05:26 PM

If you are raising flop, don't see why you should stop betting now.