Nightly Session, 9 Key Hands

Nichomacheo · #1 09-15-2006, 12:34 AM

Hands 1 and 2 are versus an opponent who doesnt have any glaring weaknesses, but is generally not aggressive enough with his hands.

******* Hand 1 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t1620
BB: t1380

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero calls t10 (pot was t30), BB checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t40, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t40, 2 players)
BB bets t40, Hero raises to t120, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: t80 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: t120

******* Hand 2 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: t1240
Hero: t1760

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40 (pot was t80).

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t120, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets t60, Hero calls t60 (pot was t180).

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t240, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets t80, Hero raises to t200, SB calls t120 (pot was t520).

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t640, 2 players)
Hero bets t220, SB raises to t440, Hero calls t220 (pot was t1300).

Results:
Final pot: t1520
Hero showed 8s 8d
He had AK.

Hands 3, 4, and 5 were versus an opponent who was a pretty terrible player. Called too much and when he was in the pot, he was overly aggressive. I think and 4 I made a terrible mistake. Thoughts?

******* Hand 3 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: t1410
Hero: t1590

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB raises to t40, Hero raises to t120, SB calls t80 (pot was t160).

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t240, 2 players)
Hero bets t160, SB calls t160 (pot was t400).

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t560, 2 players)
Hero bets t240, SB calls t240 (pot was t800).

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t1040, 2 players)
Hero bets t320, SB calls t320 (pot was t1360).

Results:
Final pot: t1680
Hero showed Th Ac
He had T7.

******* Hand 4 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t2360
BB: t640

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero calls t15 (pot was t45), BB checks.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t60, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t60, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t60, 2 players)
BB bets t90, Hero calls t90 (pot was t150).

Results:
Final pot: t240
BB showed 4d 6s

******* Hand 5 ********

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t2135
BB: t865

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero raises to t90, BB raises to t150, Hero calls t60 (pot was t240).

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t300, 2 players)
BB bets t120, Hero raises all-in t1985, BB calls all-in t595.
Uncalled bets: t1270 returned to Hero.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t1730, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t1730)

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t1730, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t1730)

Results:
Final pot: t1730
BB showed As Kh

Hands 6-9 are versus an overly aggressive opponent with good hands, slows down with weak, but decent hands. Way too loose to be profitable though. How do you like my line for each?

******* Hand 6 ********

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: t1510
Hero: t1490

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB calls t10 (pot was t30), Hero checks.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t40, 2 players)
Hero bets t40, SB calls t40 (pot was t80).

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t120, 2 players)
Hero bets t60, SB raises to t140, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t80 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: t240

On this hand, what do you put him on? 5? 6?

******* Hand 7 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t1290
BB: t1710

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40 (pot was t80).

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t120, 2 players)
BB bets t60, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t60 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: t120

This hand was ridiculous. I had no idea what to do and I think I made a bad mistake by pushing. I cant believe what he called with.

******* Hand 8 ********

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: t1770
Hero: t1230

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB raises to t80, Hero calls t60 (pot was t100).

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t160, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets t160, Hero raises to t380, SB calls t220 (pot was t700).

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t920, 2 players)
Hero is all-in t770, SB calls t770 (pot was t1690).

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t2460, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t2460)

Results:
Final pot: t2460
Hero showed Td Jd
He had a black KQ

Standard?

******* Hand 9 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t1965
BB: t1035

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero raises to t90, BB calls t60 (pot was t120).

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t180, 2 players)
BB bets t120, Hero calls t120 (pot was t300).

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t420, 2 players)
BB is all-in t825, Hero calls t825 (pot was t1245).

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t2070, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t2070)

Results:
Final pot: t2070
BB showed 5s Js

Comments on all hands are appreciated.

Nichomacheo · #2 09-15-2006, 12:35 AM

By the way, these are all $50 HUSNGs.

Nichomacheo

omgwtfnoway · #3 09-15-2006, 04:46 AM

against opponent 1, what general adjustments are you making to your game? semi-bluff more/less often? value bet more/less often? i'm genuinely curious.
hand 1 - i like your line post-flop IFF villain was frequently checking tp or 2nd pair on the flop, otherwise i'd bet 2/3 to 3/4 psb on the flop.
hand 2 - c/c is fine on this flop. c/r is fine on the turn, were you planning to call a shove? if not would leading the turn have been a better play?
hand 3 - i like it
hand 4 - i agree it was a mistake not to raise, misclick? i like a small raise on the river to 200.
hand 5 - do high card hands dominate his two-bet range? what pairs would you include in his range if any? as it went down you look like a baller.
hand 6 - you're behind but you're getting 4:1, what about taking a card off to try to catch trips, two pair or a straight? your line keeps you from getting in any more trouble but the pot odds are attractive.
hand 7 - not enough of a read to put him on anything specific but i think a fold is standard.
hand 8 - i think the problem is the stack sizes, scary turn card but it sucks to have to c/f this spot. lines on the flop to keep you out of this spot are leading at the pot on the flop for 100-160 or check-raising larger, to 475-550 with the intention of ending the hand on the flop. i'm not sure which line i prefer tho.
hand 9 - i like it.

hope this helped.

XxPenguinxX · #4 09-15-2006, 05:12 AM

Hand 1 - I would bet the flop. I still like your turn line, but you could never call a re-raise and so it does carry any element of risk.

Hand 2 - I don't mind the turn raise; you can't be scared enough of flushes on board in HU not to bet your set there. Don't like the river lead, though - he has called your raise, and since you haven't filled up I'm looking to check/call any bet up to pot-sized. If he's missed a draw, it gives him a chance to bluff - if he had the flush all along, it minimises your losses. I was surprised to see him show down top 2 after that min raise, which is usually a value extractor. Useful info to be gleaned on Villain from that hand, though.

Hand 3 - Standard

Hand 4 - I would bet the turn, hoping to pick it up there. Also disguises your draw if you hit. By terrible mistake, I assume you mean not raising the river. However, here you are either way ahead or way behind, and I don't mind the call. Do you think anything other than a flush calls a substantial raise in this spot?

Hand 5 - shove preflop and hope to win the race you'll almost certainly be in. I think the flop push is unnecessarily aggressive. I would call here, and push if he checks the turn. You're more likely to get a) draws and b) overcards to fold there, and if bets into you again you can be pretty sure you're behind.

Hand 6 - good fold. I actually put him on Qx here, but even if you think he might be drawing there are too many scare cards that could come off on the river to make this worth staying in. Also, if you read him for being overly aggressive with hands he likes, you're probably facing a big bet on the river.

Hand 7 - I don't know, I might call there for information this early on, and see what he does on the turn. Can't argue with the fold though.

Hand 8 - hate the push, hate the call more (obviously).

Hand 9 - raise the flop. As played, fold the turn. An Ace comes off and he's not scared by it even though you raised preflop. I don't think this is a bluff very often.

A few extra points:

1) I think 9 hands is a few too many for one post - going to be hard to have an in depth discussion on many hands.

2) Since they're not consecutive hands, or all from the same SNG, I would leave out the results next time.

3) As someone who is going to start playing at this level soon, I'm pleased to note the average quality of players in the $50s!

BobAllinSki · #5 09-15-2006, 07:45 AM

Hand 1: With position I'd usually bet this but a check is not a bad play to mix it up, I like the turn raise

Hand 2: Seems fine, your hand is to good to muck or call down but you don't want to trap yourself against a flush, just make sure you play flushes in the same way (is considering a flush a danger here to weak?)

Hand 3: I'd bet closer to the full pot against this kind of villain, I'd sometimes just call instead of raising out of position, partly to keep the pot small and partly for deception

Hand 4: I'd want to raise something here, the problem is with your opponent so short you will have to pay off any all in so the question is are you better pushing it or ~potting it, I'd probably go with the pot but its a close call.

Hand 5: Brave push, I'd often just call and see what action the turn brings, a pot sized bet from villain would either be a push or fold spot, leaning heavily towards the fold.

Hand 6: Given the action I'd fold the turn 2, allthough I find just checking mid pair on the flop can work quiet well, if your opponent is to aggro you can just call it down, if he is less aggro you will often get called by weaker hands than usuall from the turn.

Hand 7: There's not enough info to put him on anything here yet, nothing wrong with folding though

Hand 8: the flop plays is fine, given that on the turn there is no reason not to bet and any bet commits you so you may as well push, against a player that calls his whole stack with 2 overcards, the push is 100% correct.

Hand 9: Tricky one, read dependant, I'd prefer the money to be slightly shallower for this kind of call, but good call

Now to see what everyone else thought and how far off I am.

omgwtfnoway · #6 09-15-2006, 03:39 PM

hand 8 remix - given the stacks, i don't think your play was bad at all. if i was in that spot i'd think bet folding a small amount or check folding were out of the question. that leaves shoving and check calling a shove. will he call if you shove? will he shove if you check? whichever hand range is bigger is the line you should pursue. looks like you got it exactly right [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Nichomacheo · #7 09-15-2006, 05:56 PM

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against opponent 1, what general adjustments are you making to your game? semi-bluff more/less often? value bet more/less often? i'm genuinely curious.

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Hand 1-- You all advocate betting the flop. I think this gets me into more trouble than its worth. I didnt raise preflop so I cant represent an ace. If he decides to call me with a 9 or 6, I'm forced to check it down to be safe. Maybe bluff at a spade. Only really deceptive card is a non-spade 7. And, I dont think I would fold to a raise on the turn. Its too likely he has two pair.

Hand 2-- I was afraid he was trapping me on the turn. So when he raised the river on a 3-flush board, I have to give him some credit. I dont think I can fold here, but it sure was a strange raise on his part. I didnt put him on a flush when I lead the river. I really put him on an ace (see the preflop raise). Unless he has TJQ[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] combination, I think I am safely ahead here. In retrospect, I should have raised the river. If he has KK or AA, so be it.

More in a bit...

Nichomacheo · #8 09-15-2006, 07:20 PM

Hand 3 -- I agree with everything already stated. I was very confident he had a ten, it was just a matter of whether he could hit his kicker.

Hand 4 -- For some reason I thought he had a flush on the river. In retrospect, as already mentioned, I should have raised. Fearing the flush in an unraised pot is generally pretty weak.

Hand 5 -- Yeah, definitely a tricky spot. The problem with calling his flop bet is that he might think I am on a draw, and push the turn if a non-scarecard comes. Then I have no idea where I stand. As played, I put him on overcards or a high pocket pair.

Board: 7s Tc 7c
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 40.4370 % 40.02% 00.42% { 3c3h }
Hand 2: 59.5630 % 59.14% 00.42% { TT+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+, KQo }

Assuming he calls. Given that he will fold some of those unpaired hands, this might be marginally +EV.