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Old 10-21-2007, 12:02 PM
wtf5 wtf5 is offline
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i hope shortstackers die in a grease fire
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:32 PM
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nobody does. like, ever.
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:55 PM
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We all hate ratholers, but this beats even that.

Regulars DP cheating.

lolol later even admitted to cheating and said it was ok since it was saturday night.


***** Hand History for Game 6431189519 *****
$5,000 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, October 20, 20:31:48 ET 2007
Table Table 127187 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 10: Huddlaren ( $9,413 USD )
Seat 6: poniesplay ( $7,377.75 USD )
Seat 7: C____V____P ( $5,570 USD )
Seat 4: kjanhu ( $1,370 USD )
Seat 5: lolol_I_trapped_U ( $5,195 USD )
lolol_I_trapped_U posts small blind [$25 USD].
poniesplay posts big blind [$50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Huddlaren [ Qd Js ]
C____V____P calls [$50 USD]
Huddlaren raises [$225 USD]
kjanhu folds
lolol_I_trapped_U calls [$200 USD]
poniesplay folds
C____V____P calls [$175 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, Td, Ks ]
lolol_I_trapped_U checks
C____V____P checks
Huddlaren bets [$550 USD]
lolol_I_trapped_U raises [$1,200 USD]
C____V____P folds
Huddlaren raises [$3,350 USD]
lolol_I_trapped_U could not respond in time.(disconnected)
** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ]
** Dealing River ** [ As ]
Huddlaren shows [ Qd, Js ]a straight Ten to Ace.
lolol_I_trapped_U doesn't show [ Qc, Kc ]two pairs, Kings and Tens.
Huddlaren wins $2,700 USD from side pot #1 with a straight, Ten to Ace.
Huddlaren wins $3,120 USD from the main pot with a straight, Ten to Ace.
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:59 PM
mrcoughman mrcoughman is offline
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Default Re: Official Party Regulars Thread

Thats pretty [censored] gross cheating.
At least you spiked tho
report him obviously
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:59 PM
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email your vip host asap twan
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:03 PM
Dean Moriarty Dean Moriarty is offline
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Default Re: Official Party Regulars Thread

fwiw, shortstackers have an intrinsic advantage over deepstackers (provided there are at least two of them at the table).

Adjusting ranges won't help you much, most of their edge doesn't come from exploiting your calling range.
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:05 PM
FionnMac FionnMac is offline
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[ QUOTE ]
We all hate ratholers, but this beats even that.

Regulars DP cheating.

lolol later even admitted to cheating and said it was ok since it was saturday night.


***** Hand History for Game 6431189519 *****
$5,000 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, October 20, 20:31:48 ET 2007
Table Table 127187 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 10: Huddlaren ( $9,413 USD )
Seat 6: poniesplay ( $7,377.75 USD )
Seat 7: C____V____P ( $5,570 USD )
Seat 4: kjanhu ( $1,370 USD )
Seat 5: lolol_I_trapped_U ( $5,195 USD )
lolol_I_trapped_U posts small blind [$25 USD].
poniesplay posts big blind [$50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Huddlaren [ Qd Js ]
C____V____P calls [$50 USD]
Huddlaren raises [$225 USD]
kjanhu folds
lolol_I_trapped_U calls [$200 USD]
poniesplay folds
C____V____P calls [$175 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, Td, Ks ]
lolol_I_trapped_U checks
C____V____P checks
Huddlaren bets [$550 USD]
lolol_I_trapped_U raises [$1,200 USD]
C____V____P folds
Huddlaren raises [$3,350 USD]
lolol_I_trapped_U could not respond in time.(disconnected)
** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ]
** Dealing River ** [ As ]
Huddlaren shows [ Qd, Js ]a straight Ten to Ace.
lolol_I_trapped_U doesn't show [ Qc, Kc ]two pairs, Kings and Tens.
Huddlaren wins $2,700 USD from side pot #1 with a straight, Ten to Ace.
Huddlaren wins $3,120 USD from the main pot with a straight, Ten to Ace.

[/ QUOTE ]

20 posts in 4 1/2 years, nice.
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:08 PM
etown etown is offline
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Default Re: Official Party Regulars Thread

did u play some 5/10 this month or all 2/4 cuz theres a pretty sick profit in the first 2k hands
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Official Party Regulars Thread

[ QUOTE ]
fwiw, shortstackers have an intrinsic advantage over deepstackers (provided there are at least two of them at the table).

Adjusting ranges won't help you much, most of their edge doesn't come from exploiting your calling range.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah definitely. People need to understand that there is no way to play +EV vs a half decent shortstacker, they have an advantage due to always playing with the same effective stacks all the time, where as full stackers who are used to playing with deeper stacks will inevitably be exploited by the short stackers when they do things like shove over our button raise after we isolate a 50 vpip donk.

Using common sense you can minimize how -EV you are vs ratholers, but you'll have to give up a lot of EV in how you play against bigger stacks if you want to be +EV vs ratholers, and it's just not worth it.

But as for OnYourBike's claim that shortstacking is more profitable, that's amusing. I've datamined heavily for the past 6 months, and among the biggest winners at each limit are 99% full stackers. Among the breakeven or 1ptbb winners/losers, however, are all our favorite ratholers.

Shortstacking could very well be more profitable for a weak player who is bad at handreading and all that real poker stuff. But is shortstacking more profitable for people who aren't morons? Nah.
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: Official Party Regulars Thread

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lolol later even admitted to cheating and said it was ok since it was saturday night.

[/ QUOTE ]

lol
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