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Old 09-14-2007, 08:09 AM
jenson jenson is offline
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Default 400NL: AQ OOP on A high board vs aggression

Villain is 13.5% VP$P, 10.36 PFR%, 14.42 WtSD%, 33.33% W$aSD

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $360.80
BB: $931.20
UTG: $453.60
UTG+1: $406.00
MP1: $398.00
MP2: $532.80
CO: $411.70
BTN: $104.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $16.00</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $14.00, BB calls $12.00

Flop: ($48) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="red">CO bets $40.00</font>, Hero calls $40.00, BB folds

Turn: ($128) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $120.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero?</font>
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: AQ OOP on A high board vs aggression

Fold. You beat nothing here. We could even argue whether you could've already folded on the flop...
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:24 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: AQ OOP on A high board vs aggression

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Fold. You beat nothing here. We could even argue whether you could've already folded on the flop...

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I disagree. 10%PFR villain raised from the CO? He has any ace any king. Hero has not defined his hand at all. Calling from the small blind is a mistake. If you 3bet this preflop and then lead with the ace on the flop, it is a completely different hand.
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:37 AM
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Fold. You beat nothing here. We could even argue whether you could've already folded on the flop...

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I disagree. 10%PFR villain raised from the CO? He has any ace any king. Hero has not defined his hand at all. Calling from the small blind is a mistake. If you 3bet this preflop and then lead with the ace on the flop, it is a completely different hand.

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I completey agree to that Mike Kelley! But I was referring to the hand as it was played, and as played, I don't see calling the turn bet and maybe even another big bet on the river.
But you're completely right that this hand should've been played differently, much more aggressive...
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:38 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: AQ OOP on A high board vs aggression

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If you 3bet this preflop and then lead with the ace on the flop, it is a completely different hand.

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I do see a lot more 3-betting PF at 400NL FR than 200NL FR. Therefore I know the 3-betting ranges much be wider. A good argument can be made for 3-betting here vs some opponents.

Generally, I'm usually not too keen to build a big pot PF OOP with AQo.
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:56 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: AQ OOP on A high board vs aggression

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Fold. You beat nothing here. We could even argue whether you could've already folded on the flop...

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I disagree. 10%PFR villain raised from the CO? He has any ace any king. Hero has not defined his hand at all. Calling from the small blind is a mistake. If you 3bet this preflop and then lead with the ace on the flop, it is a completely different hand.

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I completey agree to that Mike Kelley! But I was referring to the hand as it was played, and as played, I don't see calling the turn bet and maybe even another big bet on the river.
But you're completely right that this hand should've been played differently, much more aggressive...

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The only thing that beats us right now is AK and or a lucky Ax Kx combination that hit two pair, possibly a set I guess. I think the play is call.


donk the river or check/call whichever.
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Old 09-14-2007, 09:09 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: AQ OOP on A high board vs aggression

AK, AA, KK, 77 beat us here, AQ for a tie, maybe even AQc with a nut flush draw. Villain is 13/10, I don't think he is firing a third barrel with hands like TT - QQ. Only hand we beat is AJ. I would not like to play for stacks here and that is what might very well happen with another PSB on the river...
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: AQ OOP on A high board vs aggression

3 bet pre.

Turn is close but I'd fold vs most people.
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: AQ OOP on A high board vs aggression

I like the smooth call in the SB vs a blind stealer. I personally like a check raise on the flop and a nice lead on the turn. You gotta take the lead at some point IMO. If he calls on the turn re-evaluate.

You probably have him beat.

He puts you on a flush draw I think and trying to get you to fold.
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: AQ OOP on A high board vs aggression

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I like the smooth call in the SB vs a blind stealer. I personally like a check raise on the flop and a nice lead on the turn. You gotta take the lead at some point IMO. If he calls on the turn re-evaluate.

You probably have him beat.

He puts you on a flush draw I think and trying to get you to fold.

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This is a good line. Resistance to this definitely tells us where we're at.
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