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#933
11-25-2007, 05:39 PM
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Re: help!
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[ QUOTE ] Any chance of Realtime reading stats from pokertracker or hold'em manager databases in the future? [/ QUOTE ] Dear god please. This software is great, but the stats are horribly inaccurate for around 40% of the of people I play against. Like off more than 5-20 points from their true VPIP according to Hold'Em Manager. [/ QUOTE ] You are sure the filters on HEM aren't set? The only other thing I can think of is that HEM is including FR stats for ppl in 6-max games - I don't include anything for >3 off the button. I did check the stats against PT awhile ago and everything seemed to match - not saying it is impossible I messed up in the meantime though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] 
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#934
11-25-2007, 06:48 PM
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Re: help!
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Any chance of Realtime reading stats from pokertracker or hold'em manager databases in the future? [/ QUOTE ] Dear god please. This software is great, but the stats are horribly inaccurate for around 40% of the of people I play against. Like off more than 5-20 points from their true VPIP according to Hold'Em Manager. [/ QUOTE ] You are sure the filters on HEM aren't set? The only other thing I can think of is that HEM is including FR stats for ppl in 6-max games - I don't include anything for >3 off the button. I did check the stats against PT awhile ago and everything seemed to match - not saying it is impossible I messed up in the meantime though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I have both set to filter for only 5-6 hands. Realtime HUD is still off a ton to the point it is almost unusuable. Holdem Manager matches with PT2 almost exactly, so it's definitely Realtime HUD that is off. This is for about 2.2 million Party Poker hands that are imported via the rebuild database via archiving method. Tried rebuilding again and the results are just as screwed up.
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#935
11-25-2007, 06:50 PM
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Re: help!
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Any chance of Realtime reading stats from pokertracker or hold'em manager databases in the future? [/ QUOTE ] Dear god please. This software is great, but the stats are horribly inaccurate for around 40% of the of people I play against. Like off more than 5-20 points from their true VPIP according to Hold'Em Manager. [/ QUOTE ] presumably this is because the HH samples you are feeding RT and HM are different... [/ QUOTE ] Exactly the same Hand Histories. I imported them one right after the other.
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#936
11-25-2007, 07:33 PM
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Re: help!
PokerTracker has issues calculating vpip in some cases from what I can see. I mentioned it before but got no comments:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post12531780 Am I mistaken here? Over time this error builds up.
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#937
11-25-2007, 09:34 PM
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Re: help!
Metreon,
That's pretty disturbing. FWIW here are my HEM summary and stats from the RT "Save as Text" options. They all match except the CB. Not sure exactly what is going on there. Possibly due to differences in definition of a CB in a reraised pot but I am surprised they are off. I looked at 6-7 random donks (like I'm not one too?) - their stats matched up too. So to get it straight - you exported your hands from PT, imported into RT and the VPIP and PFR of a bunch of villains doesn't match?  37190 players Mr. D0! 39106 Hands Won $475.41 3.33 BB/100 Pre-flop Total EP MP LP BLINDS VP$IP 24% -- 21% 28% 22% Call Open 11% -- 15% 13% 10% Limp 5% -- 2% 2% 12% Limp-Call 41% -- 41% (54) 50% (38) 38% PFR 18% -- 18% 24% 11% Raise 1st 26% -- 19% 32% 31% 3-Bet 5% -- 2% 4% 5% Fold to 3-Bet 38% -- 37% 38% 39% Blind Steal 32% Fold to steal 88% (SB) Fold to steal 82% (BB) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Post flop Total Flop Turn River Aggression 2.1 3.0 1.5 1.3 Agg Freq 45% 49% 42% 37% Check-raise 4% 4% 5% 2% Bet/Check 35/65 40/60 31/69 26/74 Rs/Call/Fold 10/35/54 11/29/60 9/43/49 10/42/48 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Flop Total HU(Pos) HU(Out Pos) Cont bet 54% 58% 61% Fold to CB 53% 49% 53% Donk bet 21% 42% 10% Fold to DB 44% 30% 49% ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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#938
11-25-2007, 09:46 PM
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Re: help!
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So to get it straight - you exported your hands from PT, imported into RT and the VPIP and PFR of a bunch of villains doesn't match? [/ QUOTE ] Right, not all the hands were exported PT stuff though. A lot of it I had just saved from before. Don't think that makes a difference. Either way I imported to HM and Realtime at the same time and the numbers are way off for VPIP and PFR. Maybe for other stats too, once I noticed the VPIP/PFR was off I just didn't use them for those players. It is probably at least 20% of players are off by 5 points or more.
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#939
11-25-2007, 10:28 PM
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Re: help!
That is very strange. I'd say maybe some hands were observed and you had PT stats for some people that were based on them, but RT didn't have those hands available. But that doesn't explain why the RT stats don't match up with HEM...
I'd ask you to send me a bunch of HH's but unfortunately I'm in the middle of a move right now and my develeopment PC is packed away. I should be settled in a couple of weeks. Maybe I'll get back to you then?
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