QTss Flush

[jfish]

PayOffWizard is 22/19 26wtsd 53wwsf 5.65/3.03/2.37 AF over 5k hands. No history or metagame between us. Note we are 174bb deep. What is the best river line given my line so far - is the line I took optimal? I thought a fake blocking bet was the best choice out of check raising and betting a larger amount or am i wrong? Seems like a tough spot to get the most value here. If he raises, do I 3bet? 3bet and fold to a 4th bet? If I c/r do I fold to a shove?


FullTiltPoker Game #3878347752: Table La Madre (6 max) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:20:07 ET - 2007/10/16
Seat 1: southside1 ($1,373)
Seat 2: PayOffWizard80 ($2,124)
Seat 3: Parra Poker ($1,027)
Seat 4: WhoIsThisGuy ($1,000)
Seat 5: Smart LAG ($1,746)
Seat 6: JungleKing ($935)
Smart LAG posts the small blind of $5
JungleKing posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Smart LAG [Ts Qs]
southside1 folds
PayOffWizard80 raises to $35
Parra Poker has 15 seconds left to act
Parra Poker folds
WhoIsThisGuy calls $35
Smart LAG calls $30
JungleKing has 15 seconds left to act
JungleKing folds
*** FLOP *** [2s 8s Ah]
Smart LAG checks
PayOffWizard80 bets $80
WhoIsThisGuy folds
Smart LAG has 15 seconds left to act
Smart LAG calls $80
*** TURN *** [2s 8s Ah] [8h]
Smart LAG checks
PayOffWizard80 checks
*** RIVER *** [2s 8s Ah 8h] [6s]
Smart LAG has 15 seconds left to act
Smart LAG bets $90

[Ship Ship McGipp]

uhhh, wtf. the line you took is fine, i usually bet the turn, but as played, you just bet 3/4 of the pot on the river. i know 90 is no 3.4 of the pot, why would you bet 90 wtf.

[d2themfi]

I like a bigger lead on the river and call a raise

[berserk]

Given that i dont think youd ever block here with Ax i dont like it, just make a real bet.

But i kind of think blocking bets suck in general against regs.

[jfish]

hm, i do make real blocking bets. possibly not on this board though.

[jfish]

given that he checked behind on the turn, im surprised most people want to just make a big bet when it is unlikely he has much.

[Teh1337zor]

Im not raising you very often with marginal hands w/ your line on this board

[Triumph36]

i think it's the 53 w%wsf and 2.3 river af that's telling you to do this

but yeah i don't think you get raised much in this spot