JJ facing ALL IN $6.5 turbo

kimos123 · #1 11-11-2007, 08:09 AM

Villian is 22/5/2 over 20 hands

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saw flop|saw showdown

BB (t895)
UTG (t1935)
Hero (t1735)
MP1 (t1295)
MP2 (t2190)
CO (t960)
Button (t3050)
SB (t1440)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to t400, MP1 raises to t1295, 5 folds, Hero ?

Lion King · #2 11-11-2007, 08:21 AM

People at $6.5's reraise allin with stupid hands. Unless this is one of the few who knows what he or she is doing it's an easy call. Even a good player isn't shoving tight enough to fold here.

May I ask why you raised to 4xbb in the first place?

lucid75 · #3 11-11-2007, 08:23 AM

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May I ask why you raised to 4xbb in the first place?

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Yeah. 2.5x it. And beat him in the pot.

ger664 · #4 11-11-2007, 09:15 AM

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People at $6.5's reraise allin with stupid hands. Unless this is one of the few who knows what he or she is doing it's an easy call. Even a good player isn't shoving tight enough to fold here.

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So what stupid hands do u think villian is shoving over a 4xBB Pre Flop raise when he has PFR of 5% ??

kimos123 · #5 11-11-2007, 09:19 AM

4x BB bc i am in EP and i want to define my hand?
2.5x is too low, people will call you if they have any 2 picture cards on that level.

sence25 · #6 11-11-2007, 09:24 AM

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4x BB bc i am in EP and i want to define my hand?
2.5x is too low, people will call you if they have any 2 picture cards on that level.

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Why do you mind that?

kimos123 · #7 11-11-2007, 09:29 AM

sure i mind it, JJ is weak..
what do you suggest? i dont know why you people want 2.5x BB raise with JJ someone explain?

sixfour · #8 11-11-2007, 10:47 AM

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sure i mind it, JJ is weak..
what do you suggest? i dont know why you people want 2.5x BB raise with JJ someone explain?

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Lucid raises 2.5BB's with anything that he's not shoving.

But yeah, 4BB's is too much, as played this is a snap call, BBV is that way

willperkins · #9 11-11-2007, 11:00 AM

You are getting 2 to 1 to call and you are only a dog to 3 hands. Call.

Lion King · #10 11-11-2007, 11:57 AM

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People at $6.5's reraise allin with stupid hands. Unless this is one of the few who knows what he or she is doing it's an easy call. Even a good player isn't shoving tight enough to fold here.

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So what stupid hands do u think villian is shoving over a 4xBB Pre Flop raise when he has PFR of 5% ??

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I think 22/5 is about the avg 6,5 player. The 5 is more from late levels, early levels they prefer the limp-call.
Most of them are not familiar with odds, neither with fold equity.

That having said I believe his range is about 66+,AT+,KQ and maybe even KJs or some other A-rags.

To prove it I have a hand I played last set (which just finished).

Since I still didn't manage to get pt working on star-sng's I don't have stats but he had done nothing special so far.

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saw flop|saw showdown

Hero (t1845)
MP (t1478)
CO (t2875)
Button (t1015)
SB (t3782)
BB (t2505)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t275, 2 folds, Button raises to t1015, 2 folds, Hero calls t740.

Flop: (t2180) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t2180) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t2180) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t2180

Results in white below:
Hero has Ac Kd (high card, ace).
Button has 7h 7s (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Button wins t2180.