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Old 10-03-2007, 04:53 AM
BrassMonkey BrassMonkey is offline
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Default Two pair on a dangerous-azz board

How would you guys have played this hand?

Button is 46/19/.6

PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (3.70 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

River: (7.70 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.70 BB
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: Two pair on a dangerous-azz board

If he's as passive as his stats suggest I think you can fold the turn here.
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:12 AM
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Default Re: Two pair on a dangerous-azz board

I usually raise or fold preflop if only one limper before me.
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: Two pair on a dangerous-azz board

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I usually raise or fold preflop if only one limper before me.

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Using a dogmatic approach like this to the preflop decision is a mistake IMO. Plenty of spots where you can overlimp 1 limper. In particular with hands like low middle suited connectors or weakish off suit broadways like JT. And in particular if there are loose players behind you.

But yeah taking a raise/fold approach is not a huge mistake and surely the simplest way to go about it.


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I cant fold the turn vs an idiot. You are getting close to 7:1 with 4 pretty good outs. Add to that the times he has Ax with some redraw.

This is a standard call down for me.
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:35 AM
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I usually raise or fold preflop if only one limper before me.

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Using a dogmatic approach like this to the preflop decision is a mistake IMO.

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Thats why I said usually and not always ... Are you having a bad day at work Oink? You seem whiny!
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:43 AM
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I usually raise or fold preflop if only one limper before me.

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Using a dogmatic approach like this to the preflop decision is a mistake IMO.

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Thats why I said usually and not always ... Are you having a bad day at work Oink? You seem whiny!

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LOL. Wasnt meant like that my bad!

And I always have bad days at work... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:46 AM
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I usually raise or fold preflop if only one limper before me.

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Using a dogmatic approach like this to the preflop decision is a mistake IMO.

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Thats why I said usually and not always ... Are you having a bad day at work Oink? You seem whiny!

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LOL. Wasnt meant like that my bad!

And I always have bad days at work... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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lol... btw who is the dork that pays you for spending hour after hour on this forum [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:48 AM
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I usually raise or fold preflop if only one limper before me.

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Using a dogmatic approach like this to the preflop decision is a mistake IMO.

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Thats why I said usually and not always ... Are you having a bad day at work Oink? You seem whiny!

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LOL. Wasnt meant like that my bad!

And I always have bad days at work... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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lol... btw who is the dork that pays you for spending hour after hour on this forum [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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God bless that dork...
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Old 10-03-2007, 07:09 AM
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I usually raise or fold preflop if only one limper before me.

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Using a dogmatic approach like this to the preflop decision is a mistake IMO.

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Thats why I said usually and not always ... Are you having a bad day at work Oink? You seem whiny!

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LOL. Wasnt meant like that my bad!

And I always have bad days at work... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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lol... btw who is the dork that pays you for spending hour after hour on this forum [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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God bless that dork...

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University of copenhagen pays me to write my PhD thesis. Since its in Game Theory I think its ok that I constantly check up on 2p2 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-03-2007, 08:00 AM
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Default Re: Two pair on a dangerous-azz board

Easy fold on the turn! The main reason is low aggression of button!
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