Early stages and busting

[Magnus1092]

Okay i see alot of good players bust early very few times. Is there a specific key too this? I mean some of the early busting are from me playing earlier as a big fish obv but still maybee a lil high. I often get myself allin with big pairs like AA and KK and AK on a K 2 J board etc...

I multitabling SNGs and i dont have time too consider a big analyze of the play, and thats why i almost just play premium, cause when i hit i can get my money in the mittle without consern. When i multitable i prob bust out first or sec 1 or maybee even 2 times during a set of SNGs (15tables)

And in later stages do ya sometimes fold an +EV situasion just too try too get ITM? Is it nessasary(?) to do all +EV moves? These qestion prob sound pretty stupid or obv or whatever for some ppl, but for me this is serious. I just want too find the best way too play and make the most $$ I am alittle new too these 1 table SNG (maybee played 1600 of them)

Magnus1092

[eurythmech]

It sounds like you need to read up on ICM a little bit, tried the SNGPT tutorial?

[Rek]

I am happy to get all my money in pre flop with AA or KK if the betting keeps getting raised. However, if you end up post flop with these, whilst I will still bet I want things kept smaller. After all it is just a pair with no improvement. I am not clear how you are losing so much with these but perhaps your post rather than pre flop play is questionable.

In latter stages I am not taking every +EV situation. ITM is my primary concern. It will all be situation dependent so no blanket rules. Just post some troublesome hands for help.

[pokerscaresme]

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I am happy to get all my money in pre flop with AA or KK if the betting keeps getting raised. However, if you end up post flop with these, whilst I will still bet I want things kept smaller. After all it is just a pair with no improvement. I am not clear how you are losing so much with these but perhaps your post rather than pre flop play is questionable.

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If you're busting out that early 1-2/15 games regularly,
You should review those hands until you plug that leak.

[Magnus1092]

PokerStars Game #13115562797: Tournament #66559317, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/11/08 - 13:25:38 (ET)
Table '66559317 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: CountSpartan (1810 in chips)
Seat 2: jhawley79 (2215 in chips)
Seat 3: fettuccino (2080 in chips)
Seat 4: dhutto (1420 in chips)
Seat 5: mentr (1440 in chips)
Seat 6: Magnus1092 (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: Kiplinsky (470 in chips)
Seat 8: Torsten22 (1275 in chips)
Seat 9: 10spade (1320 in chips)
CountSpartan: posts small blind 15
jhawley79: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Magnus1092 [Ks Kh]
fettuccino: folds
dhutto: raises 30 to 60
mentr: folds
Magnus1092: raises 120 to 180
Kiplinsky: folds
Torsten22: folds
10spade: folds
CountSpartan: calls 165
jhawley79: folds
dhutto: raises 300 to 480
Magnus1092: raises 990 to 1470 and is all-in
CountSpartan: folds
dhutto: calls 940 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [2s Jc 2h]
*** TURN *** [2s Jc 2h] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [2s Jc 2h Qd] [Qc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dhutto: shows [Ad As] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
Magnus1092: shows [Ks Kh] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
dhutto collected 3050 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3050 | Rake 0
Board [2s Jc 2h Qd Qc]
Seat 1: CountSpartan (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: jhawley79 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: fettuccino folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: dhutto showed [Ad As] and won (3050) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 5: mentr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Magnus1092 showed [Ks Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 7: Kiplinsky folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Torsten22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: 10spade (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Is this an instantshuv? I may raised it a lil low preflop, 210 whould be better and i normaly do. With 210 is it reasonable too fold after getting 210 of your stack in it? I had a bad feeling but still its a 6+0.5, can I fold?

But as i think i seen too be remembering that maybee one year ago i had alot of early finishing. I actually think early stages was the spot i finished most:P Yes huge fish with a sexy -44% roi over the first 4-500. So too get a realy good picture weither im playing kinda bad or not im not getting here... I will start making a dot on a piece of paper everytime i finish 9th or 8th in the future 500 SNGs or so...

[tigerite]

Standard, come on.

[Magnus1092]

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Standard, come on.

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Its not my point too sound retarted or something and like I said some of my qestion may sound obv too some or most ppl but i just want too get down, finding the source too the high early bust out. And I may found it out already cause of my bad previous results. If i broke your [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] im realy sorry.

[DevinLake]

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I multitabling SNGs and i dont have time too consider a big analyze of the play

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good luck getting better.

The KK hand you posted, if it was posted on it's own I'd send it to BBV for them to berate you.

Should you pass on +EV spots? Probably not. You can pass on very small edges if you think you have a good edge on the table. But otherwise, you should be taking almost all +EV situations.

This post is just to general, you're basically asking how do I get better?

Post some specific hands (that do not include getting KK aipf).