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Old 09-03-2007, 04:56 PM
RyanCIA RyanCIA is offline
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Default 100NL Suggestions on how to get more $ off these 2 hands

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $177.85
Hero (BB): $95.75
UTG: $98.00
UTG+1: $137.90
MP1: $22.00
MP2: $79.80
CO(Villian) : $124.35
BTN: $16.80

Villian is 15/6/2 over 75 hands

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $3.50</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $5.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $15.00</font>, CO folds
Uncalled bet of $10.00 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $17.50 ($0.85 Rake)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $106.00
BB: $87.50
Hero (UTG): $141.55
UTG+1: $24.85
MP1: $100.00
MP2 (Villian): $100.50
CO: $105.10
BTN: $181.80

Villian is 8/3/1 over 230 hands

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, 2 folds, MP2 calls $3.50, 4 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks

Turn: ($8.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, MP2 folds
Uncalled bet of $5.00 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $8.50 ($0.40 Rake)
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:00 PM
stuartharris stuartharris is offline
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Default Re: Suggestions on how to get more $ off these 2 hands

I play both hands as you did. In the first hand, I raise to drive away 2 clubs. In the second hand, I like the flop check, but by the turn, you need to get some money in there. Tough luck on both hands, but I think you played them right.
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Old 09-03-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: Suggestions on how to get more $ off these 2 hands

Both of your opponents have to have some sort of hands for you to make money unless they are just crazy nutballs.
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Old 09-03-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: Suggestions on how to get more $ off these 2 hands

In the first hand I reraise preflop, wtf. You have Queens against a steal.
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Old 09-03-2007, 09:31 PM
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Both of your opponents have to have some sort of hands for you to make money unless they are just crazy nutballs.

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Old 09-03-2007, 11:04 PM
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In the first hand I reraise preflop, wtf. You have Queens against a steal.

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villian is rly nitty. if we raise and he calls, we are pretty tuff against his range, and we are OOP. QQ is an easy hand to play OOP when our range is open. calling is good a lot of the time given that kind of villian

as played, i like both hands. i generally stab the flop in the first hand about 30% of the time. cant always check ur monsters
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:08 PM
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He raises 6% of hands. He's raising more in the cutoff (i assume, of course). I would never call here against a villain with a raise % &gt;1.
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:37 PM
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He raises 6% of hands. He's raising more in the cutoff (i assume, of course). I would never call here against a villain with a raise % &gt;1.

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ok...what does raising do? (other than allow villian to play "perfectly" in a big pot against us, give away our range mostlikely, and allow worse hands to play perfectly as well).
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:48 PM
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Default Re: Suggestions on how to get more $ off these 2 hands

I never really thought of this so thanks for bringing it to my attention.

The only thing it really does is help us not lose a big pot because he's so nitty. It also helps protect our hand against pocket pairs and SCs by cutting down his implied odds. I'm probably wrong, but you're making a case for just calling AA here as well. I assume you don't do that.
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:57 PM
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I never really thought of this so thanks for bringing it to my attention.

The only thing it really does is help us not lose a big pot because he's so nitty. It also helps protect our hand against pocket pairs and SCs by cutting down his implied odds. I'm probably wrong, but you're making a case for just calling AA here as well. I assume you don't do that.

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not often. but i will sometimes against regulars. cant always b predictable.
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