KK vs nit's squeeze

[The White Rabbit]

Both QQ and AKs are marginal calls vs. that range, add QQ to our pushing range and it's not even close.

[lucksack]

Yes, looks like a very marginal call actually against that range, which surprised me. Still, I don't think he's likely to call with QQ and AK. Isn't the definition of a nit to not push marginal edges like this one?

What's wrong with a smaller 4-bet?

[recallme]

What you thinkof making a smaller 4bet tolike 400 and induce a shove from Ak/perhaps QQ

[cashy]

I saw 17/9 nits instacalling with jj in this spot.
I dont think he folds qq/ak here very often

[lucksack]

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What you thinkof making a smaller 4bet tolike 200 and induce a shove from Ak/perhaps QQ

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[recallme]

Sry, of course i meant 200

[RiverHebrew2]

If he's a nit I 4bet pre or at least shove flop. I don't like way this wuz played, trying not to be results oriented.

[schwza]

yeah, looking back at it i agree that i should've shoved preflop. my thinking at the time was that i was worried too few worse hands would call, but villain would be getting decent odds to call with AK/QQ and i'd expect he'd call either one.

one reason i wanted to just call was to bring along the $200-stack poster. if i push or 4bet he's going to fold almost all of his hands, but if i call i thought i could get an overcall or a "oh screw it, i'm all-in" push which i oculd then repush over.

can we talk about the postflop? i think getting it in on that flop does not look very good. he's only going to stack off with QQ, AA, and AQ if he has squeezes there with AQ.

[bennies]

postflop is good

[blankoblanco]

How do you play turn if it's a blank? If we check and he still shoves, do we still have to fold because his hand is usually AA or QQ?