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Old 10-28-2007, 10:40 PM
Arp220 Arp220 is offline
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Default NL25 - middle set faces turn warfare

I'm currently in the midst of a 10 ish buyin downswing, caused by some combination of getting sucked out on to a ridiculous extent, and me just sucking. This hand shook my confidence a bit - did I misplay it, and if so, how?

Played about 3 orbits at the table, all unknowns. I'd been playing fairly tight. Table was fairly loose, villains both seemed pretty run of the mill:

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 PL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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UTG: $37.40
MP: $24.20
CO: $28.70
BTN: $12.50
SB: $17.60
Hero (BB): $22.60

Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.50</font>, MP calls $0.50, 2 folds, SB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($2) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $1</font>, MP calls $1, SB folds, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($5) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $2.50</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $5</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $13.75</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $22.50</font>, Hero calls $7.35 and is All-In
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:50 PM
Tito Tito is offline
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Default Re: NL25 - middle set faces turn warfare

Preflop and flop both look good although I like to lead the betting on the flop with a set esp. into the preflop raiser. You definetly have to bet at least $3.50 on the river but it seemed to work out well with everyone getting all on. MP have 88?
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:53 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: NL25 - middle set faces turn warfare

If you are not going to lead here which I am completely cool with, then I believe you have to c/r. There really is no point in going into extensive slow playing at these limits. As played, I would definitely just shove over MP's raise on the turn. I dont think there is anyway youre getting away from the turn though TBH. I guess he had either 88 or 57. If he had 57 this is shows one of the main reasons what you must raise this flop, youre giving draws amazing odds to draw out on you.
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:58 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - middle set faces turn warfare

u have to raise this flop. i hate with an origional bettor, and one caller just over calling here. i think we need to raise the flop becuase there is no sense in slow playin out hand .
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Old 10-28-2007, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - middle set faces turn warfare


Many thanks for the responses
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: NL25 - middle set faces turn warfare

What are you thinking slowplaying this 4 handed? I probably lead flop w/o a read and try to get it AI on the flop. Failing that, I'd try to get it in on the turn.

In other words, I'd bet all 3 streets for value vs unknowns, sometimes CRing the flop if I thought Villain would bet.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:57 AM
Shattered Shattered is offline
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Default Re: NL25 - middle set faces turn warfare

Slow playing a set on that board is fine heads up. 4-handed, though, you want the money in ASAP.
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:10 AM
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Default Re: NL25 - middle set faces turn warfare

not to sound redundant but raise the flop
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:50 AM
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Default Re: NL25 - middle set faces turn warfare

the only reason to check the flop is for check-raising
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:24 AM
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Default Re: NL25 - middle set faces turn warfare

C/c this flop is so bad. We don't C/c with sets in 4way pot with a straight draw on the table; if we check, we raise it and try to get it all in.
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