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Old 11-28-2007, 07:50 PM
GTSamIAm GTSamIAm is offline
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Default Getting Minraised on Dry Flop - Totally Lost

Hate min-raising. I wonder if this is the sort of hand I should be felting? Personally I don't like it because I think the pot size is too small. When he bets $19 on turn, I'm not putting him on more than a pair of jacks. Knowing that, I think I bet way too much on the river.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $119.45
UTG: $161.95
MP: $160.55
Hero (CO): $107.60
BTN: $142.95
SB: $106.15

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, BTN calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($32.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $19</font>, Hero calls $19

River: ($70.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $40</font>, BTN folds

Results: $70.50 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero mucked A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and WON $67.50 (+$33 NET)
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:13 PM
leeq leeq is offline
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Default Re: Getting Minraised on Dry Flop - Totally Lost

I dont like the riverbet, what you u do with a reraise ? rather c/c
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:20 PM
lank4ever lank4ever is offline
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Default Re: Getting Minraised on Dry Flop - Totally Lost

Im fine going broke somewhere here.

If I just call the flop Im raise/calling the turn, but I probably put in an annoying raise to 24-30 on the flop and bet/fold turn against an unknown.

As played if you think he's got just a jack. I think about minraising the turn, and shoving the river if called. If he instashoves the turn you have a hard decision, but it's probably a fold.
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:29 PM
h_ven h_ven is offline
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Default Re: Getting Minraised on Dry Flop - Totally Lost

Since you slowplayed the flop, I make it ~$50 on the turn.

Why don't you like the riverbet leeq?
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:35 PM
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Default Re: Getting Minraised on Dry Flop - Totally Lost

Any more reads?

Given you opened in CO and he called on button, his range is wider than usual (he thinks you're stealing).

So while under normal circumstances I'm worried about a set on such a dry flop, I'm not really worried here.

So I'd Call flop raise, CRAI turn. (It would be roughly I pot sized check/raise anyway). That could get a stubborn AJ to stick around....
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:38 PM
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Default Re: Getting Minraised on Dry Flop - Totally Lost

rive card is a scare card to villians holdings if in fact he has a J. most likely villian is playing QJ or JT on the button. u played AA pretty passive the whole way and then firing on the river when a scare card comes would be incorrect, imo. to me you played AA like ovecards on the flop and probably looks like u picked up a draw on the turn which is why you called. I would check the river hoping to induce a bet and just call.
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: Getting Minraised on Dry Flop - Totally Lost

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Im fine going broke somewhere here.

If I just call the flop Im raise/calling the turn, but I probably put in an annoying raise to 24-30 on the flop and bet/fold turn against an unknown.

As played if you think he's got just a jack. I think about minraising the turn, and shoving the river if called. If he instashoves the turn you have a hard decision, but it's probably a fold.

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heh?


i like a c/minraise on the turn but snapcall when he shoves
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:40 PM
lank4ever lank4ever is offline
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Default Re: Getting Minraised on Dry Flop - Totally Lost

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Im fine going broke somewhere here.

If I just call the flop Im raise/calling the turn, but I probably put in an annoying raise to 24-30 on the flop and bet/fold turn against an unknown.

As played if you think he's got just a jack. I think about minraising the turn, and shoving the river if called. If he instashoves the turn you have a hard decision, but it's probably a fold.

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heh?


i like a c/minraise on the turn but snapcall when he shoves

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Meh I always instacall the shoves too, which is why I go broke here often. However, against a full stack player when they shove they always have 33 or 44.

Im not saying they won't go broke with QJ or whatever, but they will call AI not shove, in my experience.

All of lines are assuming that he is something close to a donk (assumed from the minraise), little too passive and a little too loose. I think if this kind of player puts a big raise in especially on the flop after we four bet, we're drawing to 2 outs often enough to fold.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:49 PM
jessica1994 jessica1994 is offline
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Default Re: Getting Minraised on Dry Flop - Totally Lost

c/shove turn
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: Getting Minraised on Dry Flop - Totally Lost

I would raise on the turn here and be pretty darn confident your good.
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