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Old 03-08-2007, 11:37 AM
cianosheehan cianosheehan is offline
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Default Called my cb, turn helps me somewhat. now what?

Villain is 25/17 and has been calling most of my cb's. Pretty sure he has been making a lot of moves against me.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($400)
MP ($579.30)
CO ($400)
Button ($643)
SB ($365)
Hero ($548)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $46</font>, Button calls $34.

Flop: ($102) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $66</font>, Button calls $66.

Turn: ($234) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero...
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Old 03-08-2007, 11:43 AM
DonkBluffer DonkBluffer is offline
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Default Re: Called my cb, turn helps me somewhat. now what?

Any history would be nice to know (what do you think he has?). (edit: oh you had some history in your post, never mind [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])

I think I would check and see what he does. There are several hands in his range that would check behind, so we would see a free river. If he bets just fold. He could have a flush already, or a better flush draw, and even if he doesn't he is still a big favorite.
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Old 03-08-2007, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: Called my cb, turn helps me somewhat. now what?

The way you sized you bets and the stack sizes makes it difficult for you do make any good play here but check. If he bets I think you gotta pitch it because your semibluffing outs might be dead or very weak.

Ie: He has AK with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], you are drawing to the non-flush gutterball. He has a low flush, you are drawing to 7outs. He has the nutflush, you are dead. He has a set, your best case, but still only 11 outs.

If you Reraised bigger preflop and then made an almost potsized bet on the flop, I think you could shove turn some % of the time, but still checkfold the majority.
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Old 03-08-2007, 12:12 PM
Blizzardbaum Blizzardbaum is offline
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Default Re: Called my cb, turn helps me somewhat. now what?

the issue i have with how you played this hand is your bet sizing. since you are oop, you have to throw in at least a pot-sized raise. i am making it $55 pf. as played villain is getting 2:1 to call on the button, so you're not folding out a high enough % of his range to raise AJ like this.

Your cbet is too small on the flop, and if you're standard cbet is 3/5psb i'm not surprised you're getting floated a lot. you're laying almost 3:1 for villain to call, so if he should be calling with any SD, FD or pair.

If the pot is $110 on the flop (i think your converter is off and it is actually $94 in your hand), and you pot it or bet $100, it becomes harder for him to call with draws or pocket pairs 66-TT, which make up a large % of his range. You will also be able to get him to fold a hand like KQ/KJ a large % of the time if you double barrel. The way you've played it up to this point, though, he's not going fold those hands. if i'm the villian, i think that you have made a weak resteal pf and a weak cbet on the flop - likely with a hand just like the one you have.
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Old 03-08-2007, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: Called my cb, turn helps me somewhat. now what?

Given history this looks like a good spot to fire 160 and fold to a push.
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Old 03-08-2007, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: Called my cb, turn helps me somewhat. now what?

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Given history this looks like a good spot to fire 160 and fold to a push.

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Would you do the same with 92o?
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: Called my cb, turn helps me somewhat. now what?

if you think there's a good chance he's floating you on the flop, then c/r all in. if he checks behind, pot any river.
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Old 03-08-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Called my cb, turn helps me somewhat. now what?

your bet sizing is really, really bad
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Old 03-08-2007, 02:27 PM
mdkrahn mdkrahn is offline
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Default Re: Called my cb, turn helps me somewhat. now what?

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if you think there's a good chance he's floating you on the flop, then c/r all in. if he checks behind, pot any river.

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I like crai,

but potting river seems like it get's picked off too much.
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Old 03-08-2007, 02:30 PM
ace93rd ace93rd is offline
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Default Re: Called my cb, turn helps me somewhat. now what?

something that u might want to think about is 3-betting out of position with a mediocore hand against a player like this, it just doesnt seem like a profitable situation for many reasons...One if a Ace hits he will control hand, in other words most likely fold if he has worth, but make u pay if he has better. Also, even though u are the 3-better since he has position he is forcing u to hit a hand since he can put u to a decision based on whatever u do postflop.
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