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Old 02-05-2007, 06:46 PM
natedogg natedogg is offline
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My only point is that we have gigantic revenues, more than enough. No need to start taxing the rich to bring in more except for vengeance.

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terrific analysis, our revenues are "gigantic", "more than enough", nothing more need be said. let the suffering rich keep their tax "relief". deficit? what deficit? budget smudget.

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Like I said, revenge is one reason, and it is clearly one of yours.

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Old 02-05-2007, 07:15 PM
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My only point is that we have gigantic revenues, more than enough. No need to start taxing the rich to bring in more except for vengeance.

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terrific analysis, our revenues are "gigantic", "more than enough", nothing more need be said. let the suffering rich keep their tax "relief". deficit? what deficit? budget smudget.

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Since you think you are the only one around here that thinks or knows anything about this, point me to any website that shows that total tax revenues have fallen under Bush.

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Old 02-05-2007, 07:29 PM
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:39 PM
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point me to any website that shows that total tax revenues have fallen under Bush.


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Reread my posts carefully - I never said tax revenues have fallen under Bush. Of course, apparently, they did, until recently.

My point is that it is completely disingenuous to pat Bush on the back for revenues going up when inflation and population growth, among other factors act to increase gross revenue independently from tax policy. That's why I said it's like giving him credit for the sun rising in the morning.

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scroll down to "DIMWIT O'REILLY COMES UP WITH THE FACTS"
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:33 PM
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There have been a number of recent studies (albeit produced by CATO and Heritage economists)

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I have a dream....that one day, no one will listen to two words of the propaganda that comes from conservative think tanks

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showing an historically inverse relationship between tax rates and tax revenues in the United States with the data adjusted for inflation.

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this absurd nonsense that tax cuts will pay for themselves (and it should be logically obvious, i.e., common sense, that it is nonsense) has been discussed and debunked before on this forum. I am currently too lazy to search for the threads myself, but you can find them if you like.

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You make a well reasoned case with numerous factual examples backing up your positions. No doubt, you have a strong background in debating.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:49 PM
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So lemme get this straight. West and the rest of you guys.

you.
A. think that taxes are to low.
B. Also think that taxes should be raised rather than spending reduced.
C. Were dropped hard on your head once or twice as a child.

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Old 02-06-2007, 01:25 AM
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Democratic U.S. presidential candidate John Edwards on Sunday said that he would raise taxes, chiefly on the wealthy, to pay for expanded healthcare coverage under a plan costing $90 billion to $120 billion a year to be unveiled on Monday.


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No! Picking on the poor oppressed minority wealthy. I think we should immediately start a collection to help those poor rich people out. Who wants to donate to the Save the Wealthy Fund?

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Yeah because when you steal from rich people it's not actually stealing!
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:50 AM
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Democratic U.S. presidential candidate John Edwards on Sunday said that he would raise taxes, chiefly on the wealthy, to pay for expanded healthcare coverage under a plan costing $90 billion to $120 billion a year to be unveiled on Monday.


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No! Picking on the poor oppressed minority wealthy. I think we should immediately start a collection to help those poor rich people out. Who wants to donate to the Save the Wealthy Fund?

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Yeah because when you steal from rich people it's not actually stealing!

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And if you're not in favor of stealing from rich people, then it could only be because you love rich people and you're trying to "stand up for them". Couldn't be any other reason.
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: Is John Edwards a complete retard?

Not a retard, just inexperienced.

Any experienced politician knows that its perfectly fine to spend with reckless abandon. After all, its not your money you're spending (or promising to spend through debt issuance), and youre only around for maybe a couple of terms anyways.
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:38 AM
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So lemme get this straight. West and the rest of you guys.

you.
A. think that taxes are to low.
B. Also think that taxes should be raised rather than spending reduced.
C. Were dropped hard on your head once or twice as a child.

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A. never said that - but with regards to repealing Bush's tax cuts favoring the rich to help balance the budget, yes, I'm all for that, what a shocking position to take
B. never said this, see A
C. see Blizzardbaum's reply above, which is far more applicable to your post
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