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Old 11-19-2007, 02:29 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: TPTK 3 bet pot ~200 bb deep

Well I dont think any sane tag is going to 3 bet 33, 55, or 66 vs a UTG raise from another tag. I run at 17/15 and since hes a reg he probably has pt as well.
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: TPTK 3 bet pot ~200 bb deep

This doesn't make sense on villain's part with a hand that beats you other than AA and even then it's weird. He cbets like he should but when the flush hits he check-raises, as if looking for maximum F/E. The only hand I see he could play like this is AA or AQ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], perhaps AK if he's tricky. He could turn a pp with a diamond into a bluff but I really doubt that. Even IF he 3-bet your UTG raise light with a sc, I don't see why he'd c/r the turn instead of betting out straight. Since AA is the only "logical" hand we lose to I call this.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: TPTK 3 bet pot ~200 bb deep

I already read all the replies and agree with the call after betting, but I would've checked the turn through. The basic reason is to avoid this spot entirely. If we're behind we have 9, maybe a few more, outs. If we're ahead he's got 2 or 3 outs usually. I only bet this turn when I feel comfortable calling the raise.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: TPTK 3 bet pot ~200 bb deep

Yeah I definitely think you need to check the turn, and probab ly call/bet river, especially with a villian this tight who's probably not calling turn with a worse hand but may call a vbet on the river with like AQ or KK. And of course you have a nut draw if behind.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: TPTK 3 bet pot ~200 bb deep

Well I mean I was comfortable calling the turn, thats why I snap called it. Just wanted to make sure Im not spewing by snap calling in these spots. I hate checking behind what could easily be the best hand and giving him a free draw to his 2 outs regardless. So a queen hits the river, he bets 1/2 pot and now I fold? I would rather avoid THAT spot.
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: TPTK 3 bet pot ~200 bb deep

You already posted results but I'm calling this all day, especially with the nut flush draw. Like you said you are only behind AA. More likely he has a big pair + [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: TPTK 3 bet pot ~200 bb deep

read OP, rest tl;dr
if he's a good reg, this could be a couple of things. A set or a FD. I do one of two things, raise the flop (see if he did set up) or shut down on the turn (FD or set has you beat). Often, good players will lead with both.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: TPTK 3 bet pot ~200 bb deep

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Villain in hand is ch_13

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I love playing against him.

That dude is such a fish.

I'm calling against him.

This is a hand against him from last night.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $51.25
MP: $67.40
CO: $50
BTN: $48.75
SB: $30.65
Hero (BB): $52.10

CO posts $0.50
Pre-Flop: 6 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $2.25</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 Q (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $3</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $65.15 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $37.85 and is All-In

Turn: ($104.95) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($104.95) 7 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $104.95 Pot ($3 Rake)
MP showed A J (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$52.10 NET)
Hero showed 6 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Sixes) and WON $101.95 (+$49.85 NET)
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: TPTK 3 bet pot ~200 bb deep

i'd prolly never call this.
i'd also check the turn.

I dont see a reason to bet turn.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: TPTK 3 bet pot ~200 bb deep

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Villain in hand is ch_13

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Turbo snap insta call.
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