fold pocet KK after turn raise?

JJack · #1 11-17-2007, 06:35 PM

$0.50/$1.00

BB ($20.37) 30.8/15.4/1.57 - 52 hands
UTG+1 ($49.25) (Hero)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero raises, 3 folds, MP3 calls, 3 folds, BB raises, Hero raises, MP3 calls, BB

calls,

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( 6.25BB )
BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls, BB raises, Hero raises, 1 folds, BB raises, Hero

calls,

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( 10.75BB )
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, 1 folds,

Final Pot: 13.0BB

Do you play it the same?

Aaron W. · #2 11-17-2007, 06:55 PM

I don't like to fold overpairs, especially to very aggressive villains. When he caps the flop and checks the turn, you've got to decide whether you are willing to show this down for 3 BB or 1 BB. For 1 BB, check behind and call a river bet, for 3 BB bet-call, call.

Fadook · #3 11-17-2007, 07:28 PM

I'd rather check behind the turn and call a bet on the river. After the flop cap, BB's turn check suggests he's getting really fancy.

Martina · #4 11-17-2007, 07:54 PM

I think I would check/call the turn and check/call the river. I figured villain had AA, so I'd get to see the showdown cheaply. Would this be an acceptable play?

Aaron W. · #5 11-17-2007, 08:07 PM

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I think I would check/call the turn and check/call the river. I figured villain had AA, so I'd get to see the showdown cheaply. Would this be an acceptable play?

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We would have to be out of position for that.... so no.

Martina · #6 11-17-2007, 08:23 PM

My bad, I am new...

TomTom · #7 11-17-2007, 08:56 PM

Villain check raises you flop and turn? Suspicious….

Have you seen him do this with less then a set? I’ve seen hyper agg players who bet more the weaker they are.

Given you bet the turn call him down and get a read, and remember AQ is well within his range here.

Xylocain · #8 11-17-2007, 09:19 PM

If Im betting the turn I dont think Im calling the c-r without a mainiacal read.

JJack · #9 11-17-2007, 09:54 PM

After thinking I like check turn call river bet line.
I risk to much at turn bet/fold.
If I will check behind I he will have up to 5 outs redraw so its 10% equity. I give him free card which will cost me max 10% of the post so its at turn 0.6 BB.
But I will also induce bluff about 50% times possilble so overall I pay about 0.1BB to dont fold my best hand when Im ahead and villan will make BIG bluff.

Is my math correct?

Bulletproof Monk · #10 11-17-2007, 10:45 PM

b/c turn

and call river