2 hands involving a super fish at 5/10nl.

jaywks · #1 10-29-2007, 07:46 AM

Villain is a super fish. He's 58/21/0.88. But that's because his pf AF is 0.4. His flop AF is 2, his turn AF is 2.67 and his river AF is 13.

Below is a couple hands where I was involved with him earlier in $3/6nl. I saw him move up to $5/10nl and decided to go fishing.

I know that he doesn't really fold any hand to a 3bet or squeeze. So, I have two hands in question.

The first one is one where I'm HU and have KK. It's obviously a monster against his range, but I'm facing a turn overshove. I'm also semi deep here at 140bbs, but I don't know if I'm deep enough where it matters.

The second hand is one where I'm actually in a 3way RR pot with him and another fish. Where on the turn, I get the nut flush draw, and I contemplate whether or not I should bet knowing that I could possibly have the best hand. Or should I check knowing that I don't have much fold equity against this fish, and hope to river our flush, if not just give up on the pot.

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PREVIOUS HANDS WITH FISH

Full Tilt Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $761
BB: $627
UTG: $338.25
Hero (MP): $600
CO: $300
BTN: $1,928.10

CO posts $6
Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $27, CO calls $21, BTN raises to $108, 2 folds, Hero calls $81, CO folds

Flop: ($252) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $144, Hero raises to $288, BTN raises to $1,820.10 and is All-In, Hero calls $204 and is All-In

Turn: ($1,236) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($1,236) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $1,236 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and WON $1,233 (+$633 NET)
BTN showed 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Sevens) and LOST (-$600 NET)

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BTN: $614.10
SB: $115.20
BB: $700
UTG: $572.90
MP: $969.45
Hero (CO): $883.15

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG raises to $12, MP calls $12, Hero raises to $57, 4 folds, MP calls $45

Flop: ($135) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero bets $96, MP calls $96

Turn: ($327) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero bets $222, MP calls $222

River: ($771) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Results: $771 Pot ($3 Rake)
MP mucked 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Nines) and LOST (-$375 NET)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Nines) and WON $768 (+$393 NET)

Full Tilt Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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UTG: $1,171.35
CO: $269.45
BTN: $639
SB: $1,929.50
Hero (BB): $734

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, SB raises to $18, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($36) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24, SB calls $24

Turn: ($84) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $54, SB calls $54

River: ($192) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $144, SB raises to $288, Hero calls $144

Results: $768 Pot ($3 Rake)
SB showed A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Threes) and LOST (-$384 NET)
Hero showed 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a straight, Seven high) and WON $765 (+$381 NET)
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HERE ARE THE HANDS IN QUESTION.

Hand 1 where I have KK. Should I shove the flop? I am a 140 bbs deep, so can I fold the turn?

Full Tilt Poker, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $1,000
CO: $282.75
BTN: $3,884.50
Hero (SB): $1,437
BB: $1,465.20

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, CO raises to $20, BTN calls $20, Hero raises to $110, 2 folds, BTN calls $90

Flop: ($250) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $160, BTN raises to $320, Hero calls $160

Turn: ($890) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1,440

Hand 2 against villain. Here our Super Fish is the player in MP, and the button is also another fish who plays 38/11/.86. My preflop 3 bet was actually to isolate the super fish, but button decided to tag along. What should I do on the turn? There's just so much money in the pot.

Full Tilt Poker, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $466.50
BB: $1,000
UTG: $1,979
MP: $5,489
Hero (CO): $1,148
BTN: $1,067

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG raises to $35, MP calls $35, Hero raises to $155, BTN calls $155, 3 folds, MP calls $120

Flop: ($515) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($515) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
MP checks

What should I do in this spot after turning the nut flush draw?