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Old 12-31-2006, 12:32 PM
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Default 5/10 trips vs pfr on monotone board

Villain is 25/10 and kind of loose/bad

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $238.50
CO: $1559.75
Button: $1081
SB: $1020.75
Hero: $8131.87

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $40</font>, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($85, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $60</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $180</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero shoves
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Old 12-31-2006, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 trips vs pfr on monotone board

why are we not 3 betting here preflop? flop is fine
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Old 12-31-2006, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 trips vs pfr on monotone board

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why are we not 3 betting here preflop? flop is fine

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No need to increase the pot size preflop with JJ in my opinion, especially against this type of player. I think I play a lot better than him postflop and my edge is increased in a smaller pot. My holding is also disguised and I feel I can win more this way.

I will 3-bet sometimes, but I would rather 3-bet a different range of hands.

/Preflop

What other lines do you think are possible postflop? what do you think of the shove? This villain is somewhat unknown, especially postflop, what kind of hands do you think he would raise on the flop?
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Old 12-31-2006, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 trips vs pfr on monotone board

I don`t like the shove here. I would shove here with a Combo draw or Tp and Nut FD.
You don`t have fold equity over hands that you beat.
Make it to 400 and hope he shoves or calls.
If he called and it`s a non spade push it.
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Old 12-31-2006, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 trips vs pfr on monotone board

Why would we want fold equity over hands we beat? This is value town.

looks good
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Old 12-31-2006, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 trips vs pfr on monotone board

raise pre flop deff. i wouldnt be rushing to get all my money in on this flop with such a small pot.
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Old 12-31-2006, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 trips vs pfr on monotone board

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I don`t like the shove here. I would shove here with a Combo draw or Tp and Nut FD.
You don`t have fold equity over hands that you beat.
Make it to 400 and hope he shoves or calls.
If he called and it`s a non spade push it.

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As said, this is value and if we are behind this gives us the best chance of catching up. Worse case for us here is 35% equity, so pushing this flop is always best.
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Old 12-31-2006, 02:26 PM
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raise pre flop deff. i wouldnt be rushing to get all my money in on this flop with such a small pot.

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go post in micro stakes please
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Old 12-31-2006, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 trips vs pfr on monotone board

well its ok i think, you might get a call from AKs, AQ or AJ, and unless he has AA,QQ your not in bad shape no matter what.
but i would also reraise preflop every time
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Old 12-31-2006, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 trips vs pfr on monotone board

pf is fine.

i like leading the flop a lot. my first inclination was to c/r but i think this line is much better. shove is good.
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