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Old 08-01-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: Weird PLO river spot w/ two pair + naked ace.

LOLOL @ YUV, i do the same thing for same reasons
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Old 08-01-2007, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: Weird PLO river spot w/ two pair + naked ace.

there's always an outside chance he's dumb enough to bet/call with AJ, btw
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Weird PLO river spot w/ two pair + naked ace.

I think shoving here is very bad. Just call. We're getting 7:1, given the flop action, he is going to ahve clubs a HUGE HUGE % of the time, and is not going to fold them. He might fold a straight (NOT EVEN ALWAYS) but i dont think a straight draw is alllll that likely. Theres a chance he's calling down with like A8 or K8 maybe improved to AJ on the river, so i think because of that chance we can win at showdown, and i'd like to know what he had anyway we have to call this bet. Shoving just seems silly w/o some kind of history/read.
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Old 08-01-2007, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: Weird PLO river spot w/ two pair + naked ace.

um, could whatever mod deleted the spam and my response put back the long posts mlagoo and i made after ?
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Old 08-01-2007, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: Weird PLO river spot w/ two pair + naked ace.

to be fair, my post wasnt very good

summary: dont bluff in shallow stacked online plo tournaments. people arent "good" enough to fold enough for it to be profitable.
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Old 08-01-2007, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: Weird PLO river spot w/ two pair + naked ace.

mlagoo + MLG = truth in this thread.
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Old 08-01-2007, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: Weird PLO river spot w/ two pair + naked ace.

i missed the long posts but saw the spam [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: Weird PLO river spot w/ two pair + naked ace.

I'm pretty sure bluffing here is terrible. In the $1500 PLO event at WSOP I saw a guy 2-barrel bluff with a set and the naked ace on a monotone flop/turn and get hero called. And his set was good. Just resist the urge.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: Weird PLO river spot w/ two pair + naked ace.

ok summary of my post: trying to handread him, QJT clubs or maybe an A w/ clubs or straight draw is the only thing he played well, but he could have only one of those things (i.e. ace, straight draw, flush draw). he shouldn;t have AK also (would have raised)

Can he fold a high flush (i.e. QJT)?

Math, 46% fold to bluff = profit; 7:1 on call, etc...

some more but I don't remember
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Old 08-02-2007, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: Weird PLO river spot w/ two pair + naked ace.

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to be fair, my post wasnt very good

summary: dont bluff in shallow stacked online plo tournaments. people arent "good" enough to fold enough for it to be profitable.

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Just for reference, do you actually know how to play PLO, or is it only split-pot games you're clueless at [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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