Does his line look like AA/KK? - NL10

[n4rf]

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If you call PF, you've put in 1/3 of the effective stacks, so there is no way you can ever fold flop if you make TPTK or better. I'venever played NL10, but even at NL50, it is rare for people to 4bet without KK+. BTW, his 4-bet PF was not a min raise, but granted it was on the small side.

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It's true I never really considered what this opponent is capable of 4betting with. I should have probably ignored the size of the raise since it looked sort of tricky and considered what could he be 4betting with? He was obviously pricing me in for a reason.

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An unknown did this to me with A4s yesterday.

With zip FE here I play hand as above and call flop. Cheap getaway if he's got AA/KK. AA/KK doesn't make as much sense as weaker hands given bet-size.

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He wasn't an unknown. Against an unknown I'll call/push all day, everyday. This was solely player dependent for me. And I still couldn't let it go [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I had the right "feel" on the hand, just didn't go with it.

[Babalatexi]

Ugh, you can't just call 1/3rd of the effective stacks in the middle pf with AK, I mean you hit the flop 1/3 of the time, are you going to check/fold the others? Terribly EV-. Either shove or fold to his 4-bet, AK's equity lies in getting to see 5 cards. In NL 10 (and 25) I'd fold this quickly pf, people don't generally 3-bet loose and they sure as hell don't 4-bet loose.

Whatever you do, don't put a big portion of your stack in pf with an un-paired hand unless you're all-in.

[rascony]

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In NL 10 (and 25) I'd fold this quickly pf, people don't generally 3-bet loose and they sure as hell don't 4-bet loose.

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Are you saying folding > calling his min bet.

[mehm]

I agree that ak strenght lies in seeing 5 cards. I'm all in or fold pre-flop.

[Schiester]

I find AK a pretty hard one to play in aggressive hands. Maybe a good post for a better player that myself to write.

Note that in this situation there is most likely no FE. If you shove pf, the only hands that may ocassionally consider folding are JJ, maybe QQ; and those hands are at best, worse than a coinflip. You are completely dominated by AA/KK obviously.

Imo, this hand played as well as it probably could have. I can see JJ/QQ shoving it in on this flop (sensing weakness) more often than AA/KK (for value reasons obviously).

I think OPs arguement for folding pf is reasonable but as played looks fine.

I know what you mean re: feeling. We all remember the hands where we shoved KK and villan turned AA but we pay little attention to the 95% of the time that we were ahead in the same situation.

I made a similar post about gut-feelings and facing minraises/min-4bets pf a little while ago and got a hard time for it. People stuff around with an array of hands and FPS at 10nl so I'd make a guess that altough you got stacked, this is not a huge leak in your game.