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04-30-2007, 01:47 PM
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tell me about the 49ers
There was some talk in the draft thread about this yesterday, but I’d like to hear more thoughts. I don’t get to see a lot of this team, and as a Pats fans I now have a rooting interest in them.
Here is what I know: - Joe Montana used to play for them - Bill Walsh is great in those Coors Light ads - They were 7-9 last year - Football Outsiders had them ranked #29 in DVOA last year, with 6.2 estimated wins and 5.1 Pythagorean wins - That’s about it What do people think of this team for the upcoming year? Are they an NFC version of the Jets? Were they a lot better than in 2005, or did they just appear better? Take a guess at their record for 2007! 
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#2
04-30-2007, 01:51 PM
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Re: tell me about the 49ers
their division is nothing special and they've got some good weapons on offense...let's see how the defense plays against some solid offenses in their division...
my guess is 6-10...
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#3
04-30-2007, 01:59 PM
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Re: tell me about the 49ers
i am a huge niners fan. I was camped out with 4 others all morning waiting for our pick. we all wanted patrick willis and we got him. The best thing the niners have going right now is frank gore, vernon davis, and a pretty sweet, young defense.
Our team is super young and imo we are on an upward trend. Last year i picked us to go 4-12 and was wrong by 3 games. This year i would say 9-7 or 8-8 seems right for us as the other teams in our division are ridiculously underrated. Also, i think Mike Nolan is the most underrated coach in the league.
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#4
04-30-2007, 02:00 PM
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Re: tell me about the 49ers
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their division is nothing special and they've got some good weapons on offense...let's see how the defense plays against some solid offenses in their division... my guess is 6-10... [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand why they would get worse when they improved their team substantially in the offseason? Their last 8 or 9 games was much more remenscent of how good they should in this coming season.
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#5
04-30-2007, 02:04 PM
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Re: tell me about the 49ers
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[ QUOTE ] their division is nothing special and they've got some good weapons on offense...let's see how the defense plays against some solid offenses in their division... my guess is 6-10... [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand why they would get worse when they improved their team substantially in the offseason? Their last 8 or 9 games was much more remenscent of how good they should in this coming season. [/ QUOTE ] this kind of gets to my FO/DVOA question. their Points Scores/Allowed would indicate that were fortunate to win 7 games, and 5 or 6 wins was more likely. any thoughts on this?
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#6
04-30-2007, 02:07 PM
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Re: tell me about the 49ers
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] their division is nothing special and they've got some good weapons on offense...let's see how the defense plays against some solid offenses in their division... my guess is 6-10... [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand why they would get worse when they improved their team substantially in the offseason? Their last 8 or 9 games was much more remenscent of how good they should in this coming season. [/ QUOTE ] this kind of gets to my FO/DVOA question. their Points Scores/Allowed would indicate that were fortunate to win 7 games, and 5 or 6 wins was more likely. any thoughts on this? [/ QUOTE ] A 41-10 loss to Chicago, a 41-0 loss against KC and a 34-10 loss to NO didn't help. The rest of their games were close, and after watching all of their games last year, I'd say they probably should have won 2 more games than they did.
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#7
04-30-2007, 02:21 PM
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Re: tell me about the 49ers
Their offensive numbers weren't great overall, but that was mostly due to the passing game. I believe they were in the 4-6 range in rushing, and should definitely be up there again. There was no real threat at receiver last year, Antonio Bryant never panned out, and Battle was the best receiver by far. Davis was also out over half the year with a broken leg, but he looked good as expected when he came back. I'm a little worried about the offense with Norv gone, but hope Alex will continue to develop.
The defense was definitely the weak link, but they made big moves in the offseason picking up Clements, Lewis, the Ravens nose tackle, and Banta-Cain. Lewis may not return to that probowl form, but I think he is better than what he showed last year and is certainly an improvement. If Willis performs I think the defense has a shot to be decent
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04-30-2007, 02:22 PM
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Re: tell me about the 49ers
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] their division is nothing special and they've got some good weapons on offense...let's see how the defense plays against some solid offenses in their division... my guess is 6-10... [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand why they would get worse when they improved their team substantially in the offseason? Their last 8 or 9 games was much more remenscent of how good they should in this coming season. [/ QUOTE ] this kind of gets to my FO/DVOA question. their Points Scores/Allowed would indicate that were fortunate to win 7 games, and 5 or 6 wins was more likely. any thoughts on this? [/ QUOTE ] DVOA doesn't tell the whole story. As I stated earlier there are couple of games that they team got drilled. This was due to our starting set of DBs pretty much being out and us not having any depth at the position. When we had Harris and Spencer in the second half of the season, the team was pretty solid for the most part and the only disappointing loss were the St Louis game (Nolan made a tactical error in going for a FG instead of a TD near the goal) and the NO game in which we got killed by the best team in the NFC. But we beat Seattle twice albeit not at full strength and we won at Denver in a game they had to win to get into the playoffs. Their are a couple of games against top flight teams that we just got slaugtered but I think the team, atleast on paper and barring injuries shoudl be better next year.
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#9
04-30-2007, 02:34 PM
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Re: tell me about the 49ers
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DVOA doesn't tell the whole story. As I stated earlier there are couple of games that they team got drilled. This was due to our starting set of DBs pretty much being out and us not having any depth at the position. When we had Harris and Spencer in the second half of the season, the team was pretty solid for the most part and the only disappointing loss were the St Louis game (Nolan made a tactical error in going for a FG instead of a TD near the goal) and the NO gamein which we got killed by the 2nd best team in the NFC But we beat Seattle twice albeit not at full strength and we won at Denver in a game they had to win to get into the playoffs. Their are a couple of games against top flight teams that we just got slaugtered but I think the team, atleast on paper and barring injuries shoudl be better next year. [/ QUOTE ] FYP. Bears beat the Saints and went to the Super Bowl.
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#10
04-30-2007, 02:01 PM
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Re: tell me about the 49ers
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their division is nothing special and they've got some good weapons on offense...let's see how the defense plays against some solid offenses in their division... my guess is 6-10... [/ QUOTE ] I take it you watched very little of the NFC west last year.
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