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#1
04-04-2007, 11:01 AM
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canterbury riverspot
crossposted with high stakes...
30-60 during evening session... i have tight image at this point, sb is tag, mp+1 is lag... mp opens, mp +1 call, I 3-bet AKs in hj , sb/bb/mp/mp+1 all call flop: KT3 rainbow, checked to me, bet, sb raises, bb/mp fold, mp+1 calls 2 cold, i call... turn: 2, (still rainbow), sb bets, mp+1 tries to get a read off of me then finally calls, i raise, sb 3-bets, mp+1 angrily mucks, i call river: A, sb verbally checks and says 'go ahead and bet now that you got there' - i start to tank - he says 'oh man, look at this guy hollywood, just bet we all know you are going to'... -typically this is an easy bet, except for the strange speech, how many bet/call, bet/fold, bet/3-bet, check...? (debate on flop/turn fine also thanks) 
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#2
04-04-2007, 11:09 AM
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Re: canterbury riverspot
I'm leaning towards that being a pretty big tell. Sb is a tag, I'm seeing QJ,TT,33, and sometimes KTs. I really think he knows exactly what you have. I think you're about to get check raised.
Just adding via an edit that he knows you don't have AA or KK because of how you played the previous streets. I think he puts you squarely on AK. So bet/fold seems ok, and sometimes I'm ok with just checking behind. Just because the only hand he calls with that you beat imho is KT.
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#3
04-04-2007, 11:13 AM
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Re: canterbury riverspot
I think check, your description of sb as tag and his coldcalling 3 bets preflop makes me think he has a set of tens. He has show agression at every street despite your image so what eles could he possible have? If you think he would believe you to have qj and he is capable of laying down a big hand than you could bet but i dont think you get called by anything you beat
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#6
04-04-2007, 11:18 AM
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Re: canterbury riverspot
ya I was mostly talking about KTs (I think I mentioned the suited part in the first instance), and you're right, it doesn't seem like a very likely holding at all given the action preflop. I think checking behind is probably a must.
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#7
04-04-2007, 11:26 AM
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Re: canterbury riverspot
clover, its 2/3 blind structure so you see a lot of hands from the sb and bb if initial raiser doesnt 4-bet frequently...
rafiki why do you think AA/KK are not in my range here - its not plain vanilla, but against thinking players this line is not uncommon imo - open to opinion/discussion
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#9
04-04-2007, 11:32 AM
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Re: canterbury riverspot
[ QUOTE ]
clover, its 2/3 blind structure so you see a lot of hands from the sb and bb if initial raiser doesnt 4-bet frequently... rafiki why do you think AA/KK are not in my range here - its not plain vanilla, but against thinking players this line is not uncommon imo - open to opinion/discussion [/ QUOTE ] If you had AA/KK, and called the flop only to then not cap the turn, you're using a 5th level Jedi line I'm certainly not familiar with. I mean I could honestly say I've never seen that line, and with that in mind it's safe to assume the villain never has either.
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#10
04-04-2007, 11:32 AM
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Re: canterbury riverspot
even in a 2/3 blind struckture I can't imagine a good player would call 3 bets with k10s. Also I dont think he is putting you on kk because you haven't capped either of the previous two street. He might have you on AA but he's calling a bet with his set of tens so I think checking is the right play
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