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11-21-2007, 04:35 PM
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Re: getting fast cars in automatic....
Its waaaayyyy more fun in stick, i have driven stick all of my life and have only ever owned a stick shift car. Personally my feeling is these types of cars should only be made in a stick, such as the STI and the EVO.
I actually have the oppositte problem, it is harder and harder to find non sports cars in a manual transmission. I'm looking for a new SUV and there are about 3 of them that come in manual transmission, some toyota small one, the honda CRV, some hummers and the nissan xterra, i like the xterra(have one already) but that is all i know of... and i'm looking for a new SUV and don't want another Xterra 
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#2
11-21-2007, 11:23 PM
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Re: getting fast cars in automatic....
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Its waaaayyyy more fun in stick, i have driven stick all of my life and have only ever owned a stick shift car. Personally my feeling is these types of cars should only be made in a stick, such as the STI and the EVO. I actually have the oppositte problem, it is harder and harder to find non sports cars in a manual transmission. I'm looking for a new SUV and there are about 3 of them that come in manual transmission, some toyota small one, the honda CRV, some hummers and the nissan xterra, i like the xterra(have one already) but that is all i know of... and i'm looking for a new SUV and don't want another Xterra [/ QUOTE ] This is surprisingly true. It took me months of searching to find my 06 Mustang with a manual trans. It blows me away that in a performance car such as this, people actually prefer an automatic. Do they not know the joy of downshifting to pass some slow wanker, getting thrown back in your seat and hearing the tires chirp as you shift up and leave them in your rearview mirror? Stick = fun to drive and more performance Auto = predictable and lazy.
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#3
11-22-2007, 01:04 AM
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Re: getting fast cars in automatic....
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Do they not know the joy of downshifting to pass some slow wanker, getting thrown back in your seat and hearing the tires chirp as you shift up and leave them in your rearview mirror? [/ QUOTE ]Do you not know that all automatics will automatically downshift for you if you floor the gas pedal? Do you not know that most automatics have a little stick that lets you select another gear, if you so desire? The situation you describe is not a situation where an automatic is quicker than a manual. A manual is quicker only in corners, because you can downshift before the curve, instead of after the curve like you would in an automatic. (FWIW, I actually have a manual as my daily driver. It's more fun and I'm used to it, since I've been driving a manual most of my adult life (Of the 5 cars I've owned, 4 have been manual). But I'm shocked at the militant anti-automatic in this thread.)
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#4
11-22-2007, 01:15 AM
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Re: getting fast cars in automatic....
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[ QUOTE ] Do they not know the joy of downshifting to pass some slow wanker, getting thrown back in your seat and hearing the tires chirp as you shift up and leave them in your rearview mirror? [/ QUOTE ]Do you not know that all automatics will automatically downshift for you if you floor the gas pedal? Do you not know that most automatics have a little stick that lets you select another gear, if you so desire? The situation you describe is not a situation where an automatic is quicker than a manual. A manual is quicker only in corners, because you can downshift before the curve, instead of after the curve like you would in an automatic. [/ QUOTE ] I'm sure he knows that autos downshift. But it doesn't feel the same as shifting yourself. There's nothing wrong with driving automatics, but for most people a stick is more fun. And it has nothing to do with racing on public roads or whatever that other guy was trying to say. 99% of the time whether you drive a performance car or a grocery getter, you won't be driving it hard or using its high performance potential. But ordinary daily driving is more enjoyable with a stick, at least to me. I personally am not at all bothered about driving a stick in traffic or on hilly streets, but I can see how other people might find it cumbersome. Obviously, most people do not enjoy a stick enough to have one over the convenience of an automatic. About 2/3 of new Corvettes, the pre-eminent American sports car, come with an automatic.
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#5
11-22-2007, 10:14 AM
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Re: getting fast cars in automatic....
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Do they not know the joy of downshifting to pass some slow wanker, getting thrown back in your seat and hearing the tires chirp as you shift up and leave them in your rearview mirror? [/ QUOTE ]Do you not know that all automatics will automatically downshift for you if you floor the gas pedal? Do you not know that most automatics have a little stick that lets you select another gear, if you so desire? The situation you describe is not a situation where an automatic is quicker than a manual. A manual is quicker only in corners, because you can downshift before the curve, instead of after the curve like you would in an automatic. [/ QUOTE ] I'm sure he knows that autos downshift. But it doesn't feel the same as shifting yourself. There's nothing wrong with driving automatics, but for most people a stick is more fun. And it has nothing to do with racing on public roads or whatever that other guy was trying to say. 99% of the time whether you drive a performance car or a grocery getter, you won't be driving it hard or using its high performance potential. But ordinary daily driving is more enjoyable with a stick, at least to me. I personally am not at all bothered about driving a stick in traffic or on hilly streets, but I can see how other people might find it cumbersome. Obviously, most people do not enjoy a stick enough to have one over the convenience of an automatic. About 2/3 of new Corvettes, the pre-eminent American sports car, come with an automatic. [/ QUOTE ] <font color="blue"> Thank you. This is exactly what I was trying to say. Yes, I'm well aware that autos will downshift for you, but it's much more exciting and fun to control that yourself. And I never said it was FASTER than an Automatic, I was simply expressing the enjoyment of that particular situation. This isn't about who's cool, or envy, or any of that other jazz some of you are trying to spew. This is all about what you prefer to drive, and I expressed that with an example of why manual is more fun for me. It's a personal preference, that's all.</font>
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#6
11-22-2007, 04:36 PM
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Re: getting fast cars in automatic....
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This is surprisingly true. It took me months of searching to find my 06 Mustang with a manual trans. It blows me away that in a performance car such as this, people actually prefer an automatic. [/ QUOTE ] The Mustang is sold to old farts my age and up (49) and they will not push a clutch.
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