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Old 10-16-2007, 01:53 AM
Crow1974 Crow1974 is offline
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Default Deep in 3r on FTP.. Should I have just shoved preflop?

Deep in the 3r on FTP 13 left, I was 10/13. Table was playing tight even to standard raises. But I have been very aggressive and gotten away with quite a few shoves.


Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, $6,000 Guarantee (Rebuy), 8,000/16,000 Blinds, 2,000 Ante, 7 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG+1: 195,000
MP: 424,287
CO: 34,178
BTN: 458,989
SB: 118,888
BB: 334,005
Hero (UTG): 207,579

Pre-Flop: (38,000) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to 40,000</font>, 2 folds, CO calls 32,178 and is All-In, BTN calls 40,000, SB folds, BB calls 24,000

Flop: (174,178) 4 A 5 (4 Players - 1 is All-In)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets 165,579 and is All-In</font>, BTN folds, BB calls 165,579

Turn: (505,336) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 are All-In)

River: (505,336) 3 (3 Players - 2 are All-In)

Results: 505,336 Pot
CO showed T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (Ace Jack high) and LOST (-34,178 NET)
BB showed 8 K (a flush, Ace high) and WON 505,336 (+297,757 NET)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-207,579 NET)
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: Deep in 3r on FTP.. Should I have just shoved preflop?

I knew when the shortstacked and button called the BB gets a good price to call, so I understand there.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:10 AM
sharkscopeaholic sharkscopeaholic is offline
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Default Re: Deep in 3r on FTP.. Should I have just shoved preflop?

AK seems to always be a tough hand to play after the flop, youre coin flipping or 60-40 against most all hands.

Your M is only 5 so after a raise you only have one move so you might as well put it in preflop. And someone might put you on total junk and call you since since M's are so low and you've been pushing.. I push preflop here.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:32 AM
2p2J 2p2J is offline
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Default Re: Deep in 3r on FTP.. Should I have just shoved preflop?

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Your M is only 5 so after a raise you only have one move so you might as well put it in preflop
I push preflop here.

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Old 10-16-2007, 02:36 AM
Dunkman Dunkman is offline
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Default Re: Deep in 3r on FTP.. Should I have just shoved preflop?

With an M of 5.5 I'd just shove this PF. As played obviously you have to get it in, you can't give him credit for the made flush.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:41 AM
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Default Re: Deep in 3r on FTP.. Should I have just shoved preflop?

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<font color="red">Hero raises to 40,000</font>,

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I wanna stop reading right here...just shove.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:33 AM
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Default Re: Deep in 3r on FTP.. Should I have just shoved preflop?

I was actually going for a go &amp; go on this hand when I opened intially.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:50 AM
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Default Re: Deep in 3r on FTP.. Should I have just shoved preflop?

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I was actually going for a go &amp; go on this hand when I opened intially.

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I appreciate that u are a thinking player...but this is FPS.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:36 AM
donquay donquay is offline
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Default Re: Deep in 3r on FTP.. Should I have just shoved preflop?

if I was going to go for a go&amp;go (if you got a call) I'd raise bigger to set up a near pot sized shove on flop...as played with all the callers it was a near psb but if ace wasn't on flop would you really have wanted to shove into that many other players with air?

I'd be shoving here for same reasons others have listed.
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Old 10-16-2007, 08:05 AM
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Default Re: Deep in 3r on FTP.. Should I have just shoved preflop?

you're going broke there all day long
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