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#1771
10-20-2007, 07:35 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
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I'd fold pre with JTs. I'd raise or fold 55, and ATs on the flop. Depends on villain how I play JTs on the flop. [/ QUOTE ] You're folding a $4 pot to a $0.75 bet? Yikes. I call that all day with AT, although I might fold the AT preflop. I dont like that hand oop vs a raise very much, unless villain is too loose. edit: Jekyl - it'd be hugely to your advantage to get PT and PA and get them working properly and use them. "Not a pro, not a fish" describes most players. Using the #s makes reading players much easier. 
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#1773
10-20-2007, 08:20 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
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[ QUOTE ] I'd fold pre with JTs. I'd raise or fold 55, and ATs on the flop. Depends on villain how I play JTs on the flop. [/ QUOTE ] You're folding a $4 pot to a $0.75 bet? Yikes. I call that all day with AT, although I might fold the AT preflop. I dont like that hand oop vs a raise very much, unless villain is too loose. edit: Jekyl - it'd be hugely to your advantage to get PT and PA and get them working properly and use them. "Not a pro, not a fish" describes most players. Using the #s makes reading players much easier. [/ QUOTE ] I am still learning how to use pt, PAHUD... so I think you all provide VPIP, PFR% and total aggression freq, so according to PT he was 38/18/1.5. To be honest I am not sure what is tight, avg, loose vpip; what the pfr% means (low = weak, high = aggressive?) and Tot aggreassion (low is weak, high is aggressive?)
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#1774
10-20-2007, 08:21 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
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OK, one of these hands was real, but it made me wonder if I should handle other straights differently. How would you play the hand in each of these three different scenerios? Also, CO seamed fine, not a fish, not a pro. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Hero ($34.45) BB ($34.10) UTG ($14.10) UTG+1 ($14.75) MP1 ($24) MP2 ($14.30) CO ($63.55) Button ($36.10) Senerio 1... Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Senerio 2... Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Senerio 3... Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $0.75. Flop: ($3.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $0.75</font>, Hero calls $0.75, UTG folds. Turn: ($4.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $2.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $13.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $32.7</font>, CO calls $18.95. River: ($70.15) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Final Pot: $70.15 [/ QUOTE ] I am still learning how to use pt, PAHUD... so I think you all provide VPIP, PFR% and total aggression freq, so according to PT he was 38/18/1.5.
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#1775
10-20-2007, 08:43 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
Villain is ~40/12/2.8 in ~100 hands.
Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter BTN: $171.90 SB: $340.80 Hero (BB): $214.75 UTG: $237.40 CO: $208.40 Pre-Flop: A  A dealt to Hero (BB)3 folds, SB calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, SB calls $6 Flop: ($16) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, SB calls $12 Turn: ($40) 3 (2 Players)SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $25</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $50</font>, Hero calls $25 River: ($140) T (2 Players)<font color="red">SB bets $140</font>, Hero ?
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#1776
10-20-2007, 08:50 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
Simple ? flop decision:
Villain is 21/8/0.55 and calls ~60% of c-bets. Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter UTG: $114.40 CO: $200.45 Hero (BTN): $325.15 SB: $109.30 BB: $204.20 Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN) <font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, SB calls $15, 2 folds Flop: ($38) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) SB checks, Hero ? It is worth noting that he went into his time bank before calling preflop and also used quite a bit of time before checking the flop. Notice his stack size. What's the plan if I check here? if I c-bet?
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#1777
10-20-2007, 08:55 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
Villain is ~35/25 over ~150 hands of data mining. I'm fairly new to this table (maybe a couple orbits) so I dont know how he previously reacted to 3 bets.
Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter BTN: $314.65 SB: $254 Hero (BB): $203 UTG: $310.75 MP: $100 CO: $76.55 MP posts $2 Pre-Flop: J J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)UTG folds, MP checks, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $9</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $28</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $314.65 and is All-In</font>, Hero ? He snap shoved, for what that's worth.
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#1778
10-20-2007, 09:00 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
Simple preflop decision?
Raiser is 20/17. BB is 26/20 and has one of those FT football uniform avatars, which I think means he won a FTOPS tourney or something, for whatever thats worth. Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter CO: $145.45 BTN: $569.25 Hero (SB): $202.90 BB: $221.65 UTG: $203.40 MP: $217.15 Pre-Flop: 7 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $7</font>, 2 folds, Hero ?
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#1779
10-20-2007, 09:11 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
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[ QUOTE ] OK, one of these hands was real, but it made me wonder if I should handle other straights differently. How would you play the hand in each of these three different scenerios? Also, CO seamed fine, not a fish, not a pro. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Hero ($34.45) BB ($34.10) UTG ($14.10) UTG+1 ($14.75) MP1 ($24) MP2 ($14.30) CO ($63.55) Button ($36.10) Senerio 1... Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Senerio 2... Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Senerio 3... Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $0.75. Flop: ($3.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $0.75</font>, Hero calls $0.75, UTG folds. Turn: ($4.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $2.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $13.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $32.7</font>, CO calls $18.95. River: ($70.15) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Final Pot: $70.15 [/ QUOTE ] I am still learning how to use pt, PAHUD... so I think you all provide VPIP, PFR% and total aggression freq, so according to PT he was 38/18/1.5. [/ QUOTE ] That guy is loose and somewhat aggressive, but not as aggressive as he should be if he's putting money in the pot that often. I dont think I want to play AT OOP so I usually reraise or fold preflop. If I reraise and he 4 bets I dump it. If he calls I'm fairly careful about playing the hand from there. I probably just fold JT preflop, although I'd sometimes reraise. I would usually call the 55 and would not c/r the turn if thats what you had. I think I might call down if he continues under betting the river and just fold if he makes a real river bet.
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#1780
10-20-2007, 10:26 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
BB is the 26/20/6.83 FT football uniform avatar dude from one of the previous hands I posted. Whats your standard play in this spot against guys like that?
Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter CO: $130.60 BTN: $577.55 Hero (SB): $294.90 BB: $214.55 UTG: $208.50 MP: $207.20 Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB) 4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $18</font>, Hero ?
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