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Old 11-07-2007, 02:37 PM
Saxatilis Saxatilis is offline
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Default KK faces A on turn against TP villain

Villain is tight passive but has been calling down with TPGK

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333"><font color="#CC3333">Hero...?</font>

<font color="black"> Bet and call CR or Bet and fold CR? If villain CC I have to assume I'm good right?</font>
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: KK faces A on turn against TP villain

bet fold or check behind and call the river bet
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: KK faces A on turn against TP villain

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bet fold or check behind and call the river bet

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My vote is for a bet/fold because this villain is tight passive.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: KK faces A on turn against TP villain

If you are sure that villain is passive and is unlikely to bluff (can you ever be sure ?), then I would bet/fold the turn.

However, the way villain has played his hand, by raising pf, calling a pf 3-bet, then donk betting a low card flop, I suspect that he has something like TT or JJ as opposed to AK.

So, I would not have been surprised to see villain either check/fold the turn or call down.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: KK faces A on turn against TP villain

He's passive, so bet and fold to a c/r.

If he c/c's I'd still check behind on the river. Unless you river a K of course... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


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However, the way villain has played his hand, by raising pf, calling a pf 3-bet, then donk betting a low card flop, I suspect that he has something like TT or JJ as opposed to AK.

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Old 11-07-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: KK faces A on turn against TP villain

Whether I bet the river after it is checked to me depends on how tight the villain is. When you are dealing with a total rock, the turn call means an Ace with a kicker he is worried about. Other villains go into called down mode with TT, JJ, and QQ when they get to the turn.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: KK faces A on turn against TP villain

bet/fold if he's really tight passive.

if he calls down I probably bet the river again
QQ JJ TT &gt; AK
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: KK faces A on turn against TP villain

:grunch:

Definitely bet. Villain is more likely to have an underpair given his flop bet. If you get c-r'd... fold.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: KK faces A on turn against TP villain

I bet/fold the turn and river. This is very frequently a big pair that's weaker than my kings.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: KK faces A on turn against TP villain

I'd probably b/f this turn. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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