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Old 09-06-2007, 08:32 AM
Jinx Jinx is offline
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Default value call or value shove?

5 handed 5/10, main villain is unknown so her probably sucks.He starts with 67 BB.

I raise 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] OTB, SB and BB calls.

Flop comes A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. 2 checks, I make a cbet, SB min raises, BB folds, I decide to call.

Turn is Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], check check.

River 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. He bets 100 into a 405 pot, leaving around 400 behind. Call or shizove?
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:40 AM
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Default Re: value call or value shove?

lol shove
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:42 AM
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Default Re: value call or value shove?

ps flop call is not good
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: value call or value shove?

Flop call seems OK given the minraise. As played, shoving probably has very little value. You get called 100x/100 when you're beat, but very rarely when you're winning outright. Unless he has a set and calls almost all of the time, I don't think shoving the river is better than calling.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: value call or value shove?

Betting 100 into a 405 is so weak, I would definately push the river here... He might not call very often, but you are definately ahead/split here, so shove
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Old 09-06-2007, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: value call or value shove?

If she is unknown and you say she sucks, she may think her Ace /set is good her. If she sucks, she probably isn't check-raising with a draw so u might as well shove here. who knows what may be going through her mind your shove may look like a bluff.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: value call or value shove?

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Betting 100 into a 405 is so weak, I would definately push the river here... He might not call very often, but you are definately ahead/split here, so shove

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ahahah....msnl is awesome
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Old 09-06-2007, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: value call or value shove?

this would be close w/ AJ
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: value call or value shove?

such an easy shove now
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: value call or value shove?

Given that he sucks I can't see anything but shoving here and he'll angrily call with his set/two pair.
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