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Old 11-02-2007, 12:32 PM
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Default 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $62.63
UTG: $22.10
MP: $22.58
CO: $56.53
BTN: $61.20
Hero (SB): $48.75

Pre-Flop: X[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] X[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $2</font>, BTN calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.50</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $6.50

Flop: ($19.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $10.25</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $52.70 and is All-In</font>,

A simple postflop spot.

Hero 3bets a LP semi-solid mcTAG regular from the blinds.

Whats my range here - what do you put the villain on? and what hands are good to call with in this spot?
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:43 PM
L'ennemi. L'ennemi. is offline
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

insta call with AK obviously.
Probably call with AQ, but I'm not sure, depends on villain and feel I guess, but I tend to station too much in those spots
I d'ont call with weaker, if he is pulling a move, good for him
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

since villain cold called and now seems to like his hand i put him on a wide range of aces, sets and occasionally a bit of 78.

i need AT/J+ to call.
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

Ax, sets, 56, maybe KK.

Villain called twice pf so his range is wide.
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

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Ax, sets, 56, maybe KK.

Villain called twice pf so his range is wide.

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i don't think u can call w/out AK or AA. i also don't see u 3betting with 65o or 87o here, i think u have JJ or QQ.
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

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Ax, sets, 56, maybe KK.

Villain called twice pf so his range is wide.

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i don't think u can call w/out AK or AA. i also don't see u 3betting with 65o or 87o here, i think u have JJ or QQ.

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You fold AQ if you are Hero? You shouldn't fold any ace here that you'd 3b. And you shouldn't be 3betting a bunch of crappy aces, so hopefully you only have a few Aces in this spot.
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

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Ax, sets, 56, maybe KK.

Villain called twice pf so his range is wide.

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i don't think u can call w/out AK or AA. i also don't see u 3betting with 65o or 87o here, i think u have JJ or QQ.

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You fold AQ if you are Hero? You shouldn't fold any ace here that you'd 3b. And you shouldn't be 3betting a bunch of crappy aces, so hopefully you only have a few Aces in this spot.

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"Hero 3bets a LP semi-solid mcTAG regular from the blinds."

Personally from my experience i'm shown AK here/sets based on villain's description. I don't think i want to hold AQ- in this situation.

Against this guy i wouldn't call a shove on the flop with AQ, cuz his raising range on the flop is def. AK+sets here, while his calling range pre with AK/mid pockets.


NOW if u have a history of him calling 3bets pressing hard with aces i can see u doing this with AT+.
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

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Ax, sets, 56, maybe KK.

Villain called twice pf so his range is wide.

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Old 11-02-2007, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

doubt I'd call KK very often though
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

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doubt I'd call KK very often though

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ya, need a goot read for that.
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