I shove and shove and shove and shove (6 hands)

TRD23 · #1 11-19-2007, 05:27 PM

The below is a list of shoves from my last 1k hand session, some I like, some I am unsure if I took the best line.

Once I have had a few response I will put in my thoughts for each hand but I do not want to bias any responses.

SHOVE 1

Villain is a decent TAG reg 19/15/4 over 2k hands.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $79.30
Hero: $150.25
CO: $110.35
Button: $95
SB: $112.85
BB: $118.30

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero raises to $3.5, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($8.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $6, CO calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($20.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $13, Hero calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($46.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $29, Hero raises to $91, CO calls all-in $58.85.
Uncalled bets: $3.15 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $222.2

SHOVE 2

Villain in this hand is 40/28/2 after 47 hands.

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $98.50
Hero: $101.60
CO: $158.40
Button: $83.90
SB: $37.80
BB: $169.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero raises to $3.5, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($11.5, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, CO raises to $35.5, SB folds, Hero raises all-in $98.1, CO calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($207.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $207.7)

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($207.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $207.7)

Results:
Final pot: $207.7

SHOVE 3

Villain in this hand is 40/16/3.6 is quite poor postflop, tends to minimise value on strong hands and spew away chips with medium strength hands.

What do you think of the flop raise?

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $139.90
Hero: $128.45
CO: $216.40
Button: $28.70
SB: $100.90
BB: $256.75

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero raises to $3.5, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($8.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $6, CO raises to $18, Hero raises to $48, CO calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($104.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $92.5, Hero calls all-in $82.95.
Uncalled bets: $9.55 returned to CO.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($270.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $270.4)

Results:
Final pot: $270.4

SHOVE 4

This is one of the more interesting hands, very interested in peoples thoughts on this.

Villain is 38/13/1.4

Have seen him check a 469ss flop with Queens after raising preflop and check call the rest of the hand down after the turn brought the flush.

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $98
Hero: $129.05
CO: $186.40
Button: $160
SB: $75
BB: $168.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, Hero raises to $4.5, 4 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($10.5, 2 players)
UTG bets $4, Hero raises to $16, UTG raises to $32, Hero raises all-in $124.55, UTG calls all-in $65.5.
Uncalled bets: $27.05 returned to Hero.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($205.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $205.5)

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($205.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $205.5)

Results:
Final pot: $205.5

SHOVE 5

Villain is 28/13/0.7

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6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $89.90
UTG+1: $255.25
CO: $149.35
Hero: $100
SB: $343.85
BB: $28.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $3.5, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($25.5, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $17, CO raises all-in $137.35, Hero calls all-in $71.
Uncalled bets: $49.35 returned to CO.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($201.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $201.5)

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($201.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $201.5)

Results:
Final pot: $201.5

SHOVE 6

Villain is 28/22/5

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $153.20
UTG+1: $223.25
CO: $46.80
Button: $160.10
Hero: $84.75
BB: $144.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, Button raises to $4.5, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($11, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($11, 2 players)
Hero bets $11, Button raises to $22, Hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($55, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $110, Hero calls all-in $58.25.
Uncalled bets: $51.75 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $171.5

ofishstix · #2 11-19-2007, 06:07 PM

1 is fine, id often double barrel turn though
2 is fine vs someone with those stats
3 i 3bet to 54 and shove the turn myself.
4 his line looks super strong. id call his 3bet and decide on the turn
5 is obviously fine
6 is meh

Unknown Soldier · #3 11-19-2007, 06:22 PM

1. fine

2. fine

3. shove turn yourself, call is fine i think

4. just call his 3b

5. yup

6.this could be fine, need better reads.

fees · #4 11-19-2007, 07:16 PM

1. fine
2. find
3. raise flop more, as played fold
4. fold
5. fine
6. fine, you can donk the flop here

thac · #5 11-19-2007, 07:22 PM

1-2 are fine
3 - if you're gonna call his shove, you should just push the turn.. don't check here.
4-5 are fine
6 - I don't really like preflop especially against this guy's stats.. I think postflop is played fine though.

vetiver · #6 11-19-2007, 10:14 PM

Shove 1: Looks standard to me, unfortunate when he has Axcc.

Shove 2: Looks standard vs. aggrofish to me. You can't call down or anything, but unfortunate that your equity isn't good against any reasonable hand.

Shove 3: Standard.

Shove 4: I wouldn't be super excited to get my money in here given your villain description, but at 100NL I don't know how you fold this. You're just ahead way too many times. What are you going to do? Fold to the flop raise? Just get it in and own him when you're ahead, cry tears when behind.

Shove 5: Standard

Shove 6: I like your line here. You can also 3bet ai on the turn, but river catches bluffs and whatnot.

mikalina · #7 11-19-2007, 10:55 PM

1 - Apparently is fine, but why not bet or c/r turn?
2 - Standard.
3 - 55-60 on the flop? As played, c/f turn, unless he's really as fishy as you are making him out to be... then I like this move.
4 - So standard. His range is super wide with everything from 22 to 78cc to 9To. Push and pray.
5 - Standard. Pair the board, one time???
6 - Meh. Played fine. Maybe push the turn. Doesn't he always show up with 9T here, though?

TRD23 · #8 11-20-2007, 03:28 AM

Thanks for the feedback.

1. I think is fine, there is room for a bet on the turn but I felt I was going to be checkraised more often than not and would get pushed off my draw.

2. Super standard against that type player especially with a pot sized bet.

3. Action here was mainly player dependent. A shove on the flop would have scared him off some of the time so I wanted to bet enough that he has to call the check raise on the turn. I felt he was betting the turn always, turned over AQ this hand.

4. Interesting to see some people going with call the 3b, others saying fold. Looking over the hand I think a fold is definitely the better decision, a relatively passive player has bet low then minraised, he is turning over nothing short of 2 pair here or more every hand.

5. Super standard.

6. Villains actions are check flop, min-raise turn, shove river. I do not think I am good here more than 33% of the time. 2pair or set more often than not. I can not see him min-raising Axs on the turn a lot here which is the only the only hand I am betting with this line.

dirtylobster · #9 11-20-2007, 03:41 AM

hand 1 - I usually fire three happy barrels here.
hand 2 - Guess it's fine against this villain.
hand 3 - I don't mind the 3-bet though I'd make it a bit larger so we can shove the turn without it being almost a PSB.
hand 4 - His min3-bet screams strength and according to your read his afraid of flushes so it looks like his protecting something big. Call and see what he does on the turn.
hand 5 - You have a set. Snapcall ldo.
hand 6 - Standard until river which is pretty though. I'd probably fold without further reads.