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Old 10-08-2007, 03:55 AM
soje soje is offline
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Default quads AND a straight flush?

I'm a dealer at a small poker room in New Hampshire. I was dealing limit Omaha 8/b when the following hand came up.

The player in the 10 seat has 6s-4s-7d-7h in his hand. Action is 5 handed, and they all limp and see the flop. The flop comes 7s-3s-5s. He flopped a straight flush. The person to his right bets, he raises, everyone else folds, the other guy goes all-in for a 3 bet. The 10 seat obviously calls, and the other player turns over a jack high flush.

The turn is 7c. I dealt one player both quads and a straight flush in the same hand. The pot was relatively small, but I was still tipped well because of the insanity of the hand. What are the mathematical odds of that happening to one player? Personally I'm leaning towards "never again in poker" as my answer, but I don't know for sure. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:10 AM
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Default Re: quads AND a straight flush?

cold deck!

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Old 10-08-2007, 05:05 AM
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Default Re: quads AND a straight flush?

cue Ribbo's pic with Royal Flush and quad Tens lol.

Nice post though OP, must have been a rush for the player
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: quads AND a straight flush?

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Personally I'm leaning towards "never again in poker" as my answer, but I don't know for sure.

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this is why you just deal instead of playing.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: quads AND a straight flush?

First/last time this will ever happen.


Like your poasts hopefully.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: quads AND a straight flush?

Standard.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...rue#Post7710338

2+2 came to the rescue and taught me that you've gotta bet out to protect those quads. It's knowing exactly how to play situations like these that has helped me to improve my win rate.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:17 AM
LV_Nathan LV_Nathan is offline
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Default Re: quads AND a straight flush?

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What are the mathematical odds of that happening to one player?

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I'm actually going to try to answer the question odds-wise on this one. First recognize that it is a little bit easier to make (really) when one of the quad cards can also make the straight flush. It would be harder if the hand were 6s-4s-Jd-Jh, since all 5 board cards would be needed.

The chance of getting it on the first four cards is 4/48 * 3/47 * 2/46 * 1/45. That works out to 114,580 to 1 for this or a similar hand making that can make 1 straight flush and simultaneous quads with four cards.

Now if you want to know the chance of that happening with four out of five cards, you are out of luck, since my calculater actually screamed in pain trying to do the factorial math (hence the ! symbol for this operation).
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: quads AND a straight flush?

i just calucated, its a lot more common than you think. approximately 3 to 1. in holdem it would be different tho, like 9 to 1
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:58 AM
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This is a discrete uniform distribution with four possible cases: both, straight flush, quads, none.

P(both) = 1/4 = 25%

See wikipedia
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: quads AND a straight flush?

i am pretty sure its around 4 in 3 to seven/eighths
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