60$ PS - JJ early too weak?

Luisgallo · #1 10-23-2007, 03:11 PM

Readless obv.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t1650)
MP3 (t1580)
CO (t1470)
Button (t1340)
SB (t1520)
Hero (t1500)
UTG (t1480)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1460)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 raises to t80, MP3 calls t80, 3 folds, Hero calls t60.

Flop: (t250) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t180, MP3 calls t180, Hero folds.

Little John · #2 10-23-2007, 03:19 PM

i can find a push here. i think the 7 high flop and mp3 bloating the pot work a ton in your favor. mp2 could easily have 88-TT along with some other random trash, so there are a lot of hands you beat that will call a push.

i'd be more worried on a T53 flop, because then hands like 77-99 check the flop a lot and will only call your push with a hand that crushes you.

vers · #3 10-23-2007, 03:37 PM

I push here as well, folding is pretty weak.

TruFloridaGator · #4 10-23-2007, 03:38 PM

Vs an unknown, I'm going broke as well. Great board as LJ mentioned. I'm less concerned about an open MP2 raise as well.

sbj · #5 10-23-2007, 04:06 PM

Grunch:
I like calling PF.
That flop is pretty good for you. With the bet and the call, the pot is now 610 and represents over a third of your stack. I push here pretty quickly.

Pudge714 · #6 10-23-2007, 04:27 PM

I actually really like check shoving this flop and check folding it goes bet/raise. As played shove they can have so many draws or worse made hands.

TruFloridaGator · #7 10-23-2007, 05:00 PM

I meant check/shove, fwiw. Same reasons as Pudge mentioned.

faarcyde · #8 10-23-2007, 05:59 PM

are you serious get it in

DanJM · #9 10-23-2007, 06:53 PM

like everyone else I would shove all day here and then get called by the donk w/ AK and rivers an A

pipS · #10 10-23-2007, 09:05 PM

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like everyone else I would shove all day here and then get called by the donk w/ AK and rivers an A

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just every time fold it