Cheating at AP, updated cliff notes

[ikestoys]

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Can anybody make some new Cliffnotes with the latest News about who were involved?
It is impossible to follow the Thread,when everytime I want to read it there are 200+ new Posts.

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stop being lazy

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A confidential source told me that the guy is no longer with the company.

But maybe someone else is willing to send this stuff out.

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BTW, I was told that by two separate confidential sources, both of whom did not want to post on their names. I trust both of them.

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Maybe somebody can help this guy get a job (at PokerStars or somewhere) after this all blows over.

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Me?

[KurtSF]

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Tried submitting the poker-king article to Fark, someone beat me to it (was rejected), also just sent it into slashdot, although I'm not sure it's the sort of thing they'd generally pick up on

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This article might be a good discussion starter for /. since its from an IT source.

http://www.securitypronews.com/insid...Kerfuffle.html

[sapsuckah]

Hey -- long time listener, first time caller (on the AP subject at least).

If I may digress from the digging and speculation for a sec... I've spent the day looking through a bazillion posts and I haven't seen this question addressed (sorry if I've missed it):

Supposedly, POTRIPPER folded his first couple hands before the 363 observer entered the table... and that's when he started the suspicious activities. But in the PXF replay, we see POTRIPPER winning right from the start.

Why the discrepancy?

[jessica1994]

"No private data, such as pocket cards, is ever transferred to other players." lol

[mntbikr15]

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Hopefully the moles can find out the truth/untruth behind the Seif allegations. Would be really good for that to be cleared either way.

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God I hope that sack of [censored] goes down hard

[imabigdeal]

taking this public is definitely a good thing imo. the "retarded fish" making those comments, the people saying "i told you so"- they've been convinced all along online poker is shady and rigged. they've either never deposited and never will, or did once and lost and never will again. it may dissuade some from trying online poker out, but if they have ANY knowledge/do research/have half a brain they'll just deposit at a different site.

[sbj]

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How does blowing this story up help online poker in anyway?
The fallout from this is way bigger than any upside I can think of.

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The cat is out of the bag. We are not risking the health of online poker by getting the word out, those who abused their positions in the industry for a quick and amoral profit did so already.
What matters most is the long term health of online poker. I think and most in here agree that getting the information out there with a rational interpretation of the facts will provide short term pain but in the long run is the most +EV (or perhaps least -EV) play. It might end up causing the US to regulate the industry and thus making it more mainstream.

IMHO.

[jakeduke]

First and foremost, airing this as much as possible ensures AP gets the closest thing to justice that we can incur. Past that, this story forces all other poker sites to step up and speak out about their security policies, and it provides some level of ammunition to back up the argument for regulation of online poker. We may take a publicity/credibility hit in the short term, but it will be made up for in the long term.

[zen_rounder]

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"No private data, such as pocket cards, is ever transferred to other players." lol

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