Adjust bubble strat for horrible players?

[Slappy002]

Actually it's 1 step up from the $11, at the $22.
I found that textbook bubble strat worked 'ok' at the $11, it was perhaps not the optimal strat.

At the $22, you get your good players, your non-retarded beginners, and your idiots.
I think the answer to my original question is "push vs. people who understand cEV vs. $EV and are playing for money, and fold vs. everyone else at the $22"

[Blarg]

One thing I notice about the 11s, too, is that many people place enormous value in suited cards. More than a few times in situations like these I've been called by something like KTs or QJs, or worse. Much worse. MUCH.

So this effectively can make their calling ranges very broad. Not everyone is like that, but it happens often enough that I think it's a real factor at low levels.

[beeyjay]

eh that wears off by the 55s. i get called by 9-j high offsuit on a daily basis. (im talking when all the stacks are healthy here, not when dude has to call 200 more on his 600 bb)

[uminchu]

How is this push correct? I havent run the numbers yet but Im off to now, i just dont see 25o being positive ev into a guy that has you covered with only three hundred in the pot and your stack at more than 20x bb.

[Blarg]

SNGPT says he needs top 12% of hands to push here -- 55, A8o, A7s, KQs.

[beeny]

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How is this push correct? I havent run the numbers yet but Im off to now, i just dont see 25o being positive ev into a guy that has you covered with only three hundred in the pot and your stack at more than 20x bb.

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you have it the other way around. OP has BB covered.

[yellowjack]

I adjust my bubble strat by developing reads on each player so I know which spots I can push in. I'm only 4-tabling though, so this may not be worth it if you're playing 8 tables because your hourly rate will decrease despite your ROI being increasing.

[tigerite]

Obviously yes you change your bubble strategy by playing more passive and letting them tangle with each other, or someone else.

[godofgamblers]

Why is BB an idiot? 4 handed if you've pushed more than 2 times this round I'd probably call too

[RoyalLance]

I currently play low stakes SNG's so I think I'm eligible to comment.

In bubble play with low quality players and with the lead you have, you gotta remember that you have you play tight and cut down on push-steals.

Take a look at it like this. When when poor players think about having a big stack like whay you have in this hand they think about pushing frequently with any hand. Thefore, when they see a big stack raising their blinds, the automatically think "This guy must have nothing. I should call." Unfortunately for you his "read" was correct. On the bubble with your lead in this situation you should wait for a good hand like AQ or a pair of jacks and knock out a small stack, or let the clowns kill each other.