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View Poll Results: how many entrants for the 2007 wsop
under 4,000 62 37.35%
4001-5,000 22 13.25%
5,001-6,000 26 15.66%
6,001-7,000 5 3.01%
opver 7,000 51 30.72%
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: you sir, are squeezing.

Push, folding is expoidable.
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: you sir, are squeezing.

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20/15 people don't have balls this big. i would need a read to shove here.

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wtf? I run those stats and raise crap here all day

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not every 20/15 plays the same as you, id say the majority of them are raising JJ+, AQs+, AKo+
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: you sir, are squeezing.

If he's half way decent he will respect your UTG raise, therefore I fold.
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: you sir, are squeezing.

without a better read i would fold. im not too crazy stacking off with TT PF.
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Old 09-05-2007, 04:38 AM
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Default Re: you sir, are squeezing.

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20/15 people don't have balls this big. i would need a read to shove here.

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wtf? I run those stats and raise crap here all day

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ditto.
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:18 AM
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Default Re: you sir, are squeezing.

all you can eat baby
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:57 AM
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Default Re: you sir, are squeezing.


Assuming he calls QQ+, AK you have 36,4% equity when called. Your EV when called is -$120.
If everyone folds to your shove you win $230. Thus he needs to fold >34% of the time. QQ+, AK is 34 combos so he needs to have more than 18 combos in his squeezing range which he will fold to a shove.
This calculation ignores the possibility that one of the players in between had smoothcalled KK or AA hoping to get squeezed.
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:22 AM
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I'm not saying your UTG range is 99+/AQ+ or anything, but your range is still pretty solid. I mean this guy is 20/15 and all the hands are datamined, you pretty much don't have a clue about his squeezing frequencies. Just because you think it's a good spot to squeeze doesn't mean it's a likely scenario. I run at about 21/18 and 3 bet a lot, and I would not be squeezing here lightly with an UTG raise from a self proclaimed nit, and a call from 3 players including one fish.


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I don't understand this. I would have thought each successive caller is likely to have a weaker hand than the last, with the rare exception of someone trapping and hoping for a squeeze. The more callers the more likely it is they don't have strong hands and that he is squeezing light, no?

FWIW I voted fold, but I run at around 17/14 and still sometimes squeeze in spots like this thinking I only have to get through the UTG raiser most likely...
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: you sir, are squeezing.

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If he's half way decent he will respect your UTG raise, therefore I fold.

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It's exactly the other way around.

That being said this guy sounds like he's pretty bad, so I'm not sure if his range is wide enough. I'd definitely push though.
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