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Old 09-15-2007, 04:20 PM
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Default 100NL: AA....could be standard, somewhat lost...fold?

Villain is 24/14/2 over a small sample (70ish hands). No other reads....any better lines? Anyone check this turn? Is folding out of the question?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $99.50
Hero (BB): $101.50
UTG: $89.55
MP: $124.65
CO: $171.00
BTN: $108.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
4 folds, SB calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, SB calls $3.00

Flop: ($8) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5.50</font>, SB calls $5.50

Turn: ($19) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $13.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $35.00</font>, [i]Hero ?
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: AA....could be standard, somewhat lost...fold?

A fold is probably in order unless you have a better read. Checking behind against an unknown on a board like this is not terrible, especially because your hand has blockers to two of the draws and it saves you from being in the exact spot you are in with no clue how to continue.
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: AA....could be standard, somewhat lost...fold?

Your flopbet is way too small...
I'd bet slightly more at the turn and fold to the c/r.
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: AA....could be standard, somewhat lost...fold?

Flop bet is fine imo.
Folding the turn is not bad but I'm tempted to call and reevaluate the river.

I mean, with the following range:

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>Board: Qc Jc 3d Js
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 58.788% 58.79% 00.00% 388 0.00 { 33, AQs-AJs, QJs, AQo-AJo }
Hand 1: 41.212% 41.21% 00.00% 272 0.00 { AcAs }
</pre><hr />
You can call the turn.
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: AA....could be standard, somewhat lost...fold?

Why is the flopbet fine? Plz explain.
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: AA....could be standard, somewhat lost...fold?

Flop bet is fine.

Can't imagine QQ or JJ make up hardly any part of his range considering PF. Also don't see him taking this line w/ AQ or KQ very much if ever. Also very unlikely to be a draw. AJ/33 make up the most significant portion of his range I think, so fold?
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: AA....could be standard, somewhat lost...fold?

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Why is the flopbet fine? Plz explain.

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It's 70% of the pot, which is a standard cbet size. If his other cbets are also this size, there's nothing wrong with it.
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Old 09-15-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: AA....could be standard, somewhat lost...fold?

is a check on this turn out of the question? If the board was not two flushed I would def check this turn.
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Old 09-15-2007, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: AA....could be standard, somewhat lost...fold?

to the people saying AJ and 33 are the biggest part of his range, you are simply wrong abotu the AJ, he raises that PF, J9, J8s, JT kinda stuff are all more likely than AJ.

personally, i like a bigger flop bet, as played I'd probably call on the turn and fold to a big river bet, but i can see folding the turn being okay too
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