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Old 05-18-2007, 10:51 AM
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it's you danza, you're misreading the action.

river is an easy easy bet. villain will put at least one bet in with 100% of his hands here. I would bet the turn as well because so many bad villains peel light on paired flops and will call a bet on this turn with ace high or worse. maybe I'm wrong about the turn though.

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No its me. Sorry for the confusion (too late to edit, corrected further down thread) but villain bet.

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Old 05-18-2007, 10:53 AM
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no, now i'm like 10x more confused. We are in position right? Flop is KK4 and we have 44. We bet and the BB calls. Turn K he checks, we check. River is a 4, he checks and you want to know if you should bet?

Chezlaw man i heard you were a nit but c'mon
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Old 05-18-2007, 10:54 AM
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in that case raise the river. villain is bet/calling the board a lot of the time here, or he has a PP. a king is quite unlikley though he can certainly have it here. I call a 3bet.

remember the zeebo theorem: noone folds a full house, ever
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Old 05-18-2007, 11:32 AM
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AD:LAKSJD

no, now i'm like 10x more confused. We are in position right? Flop is KK4 and we have 44. We bet and the BB calls. Turn K he checks, we check. River is a 4, he checks and you want to know if you should bet?

Chezlaw man i heard you were a nit but c'mon

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I'm getting confused now, he bet my corrected question was should I raise or call. I thought that was the one you answered.

Even I, the biggest nit would have insta-bet if he checked.

Sorry for any confusion. It tough to get it right with holes in your feet.

chez
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:10 PM
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"Turn: K chk-chk

River: 4 chk-"

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Old 05-18-2007, 12:14 PM
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"Turn: K chk-chk

River: 4 chk-"

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I correct it further down 7th post, sorry it was too late to edit. Sorry for the confusion. sorry sorry sorry

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Old 05-18-2007, 12:17 PM
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worst friday ever. lol.

raise and call a 3-bet.

"(I read this as suspicious from this chap)" - i mean if you can explain that to be something like "worst hand he calls the flop with is Q hi, and the best hand he calls the flop with is A hi" then i could see some debate on the river play
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:58 PM
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worst friday ever. lol.

raise and call a 3-bet.

"(I read this as suspicious from this chap)" - i mean if you can explain that to be something like "worst hand he calls the flop with is Q hi, and the best hand he calls the flop with is A hi" then i could see some debate on the river play

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He'd been over-agressive with any bit post flop so the call smelt like a monster. Didn't stop me raising and calling the 3bet but I'm not sure it's good.

Pointless trivia; I've hit quad fours twice on the river today and not won either hand. This one I was drawing dead and the other one was a bad beat on someone else.

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Old 05-18-2007, 04:53 PM
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I definitely raise/call this, especially after your turn check (kinda like that though)

also technically you raised preflop and bet the flop so you are not ready to stab yourself in the face even if you do call the river.
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Old 05-18-2007, 08:57 PM
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I like the turn ck, given u did that theres more than enough value in the raise for the rare times u have to call a 3bet and enjoy the sweet kick to the nuts that is quads over quads

if it was ck'd to u its an easy bet call obviously
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