KK against a guy

xorbie · #1 09-04-2006, 02:40 AM

Party 200NL. Villain used to have a stack of about $465 but now does not, he's at around $200. I have him covered with about $400. Previous hands with him go as follows:

i raise pf, he calls in position. i bet out on a QJx[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img][img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] board, he calls. i bet a T turn, he raises, i fold.

i raise pf, he calls in position. i bet out on a Qxx flop, he calls. turn K makes two [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. i c/r his bet. i bet a 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] river for about 2/3 pot and he folds.

as of that last hand, he still had about $400, so somehow he has managed to lose almost half his stack and may be tilting. i don't have numbers on him because i can't get HUD to work.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, Hero raises to $7, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($16, 2 players)
SB bets $15, Hero raises to $45, SB raises to $95, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $50 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $106

bottomset · #2 09-04-2006, 02:52 AM

sucky spot

part of me wants to just call the flop, and see the turn

as played I think the fold is good

xorbie · #3 09-04-2006, 02:56 AM

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with xx.

Hero raises to $7, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($28, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $25, CO calls, 2 folds.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($78, 2 players)
Hero bets $50, CO raises to $125, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $75 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: $178

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with xx
Hero raises to $7, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($17, 2 players)
Hero bets $12, CO calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($41, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $25, Hero raises to $75, CO calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($191, 2 players)
Hero bets $120, CO folds.
Uncalled bets: $120 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $191

bottomset · #4 09-04-2006, 03:01 AM

it'd be nice if one of them made it to SD, to get a feel for what he's calling your raises with

do you have the hand where he drops 200ish?

mkflsam · #5 09-04-2006, 03:03 AM

i wouldn't raise the flop if i was uncomfortable getting it all in right there.

were you calling a crai from him on a blank turn if he just called the flop raise, or were you going to check behind?

xorbie · #6 09-04-2006, 03:05 AM

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it'd be nice if one of them made it to SD, to get a feel for what he's calling your raises with

do you have the hand where he drops 200ish?

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i'm sure i have it in PT database but lets pretend i don't because i didn't see it.

xorbie · #7 09-04-2006, 03:06 AM

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i wouldn't raise the flop if i was uncomfortable getting it all in right there.

were you calling a crai from him on a blank turn if he just called the flop raise, or were you going to check behind?

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there are some turns i would bet/fold. some turns i would bet/call. some turns i would check.

GT123 · #8 09-04-2006, 03:11 AM

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i wouldn't raise the flop if i was uncomfortable getting it all in right there.

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I'm wondering why this is? Just because you raise, doesn't mean you are committed to the pot. I thinking calling and revaluating on the turn type plays are weak, and leaves you guessing most of the time against an aggressive player. Also in this situation I am raising any 2, not just an over pair on the flop a lot of the time.

yvesaint · #9 09-04-2006, 03:12 AM

looks good to me

GT123 · #10 09-04-2006, 03:13 AM

and to xorbie, I play this hand the same, I think at best you are coinflipping against some sort of combo draw, and I don't think given your history with villain, that he would mess around too much OOP.