LEGALIZE IT

[yukoncpa]

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Substances are incredibly powerful tools. Each one has a responsible and an irresponsible use. Drugs are agents of social darwinism as they weed out the people who cannot responsibly live in a privileged environment.



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Out of curiosity, what good does this social Darwinism do? Idiots that can’t handle drugs responsibly just give the rest of us a bad reputation and cause problems for us. In the meantime, nothing weeds them out. Nutty addicts, at least in California where I came from, are remanded to mental health upon arrest. They don’t even go to jail. Often they are out in 48 (or how many statutory ) hours they must be held for. Then they are back on the streets bugging the rest of society for money.

[m_the0ry]

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Substances are incredibly powerful tools. Each one has a responsible and an irresponsible use. Drugs are agents of social darwinism as they weed out the people who cannot responsibly live in a privileged environment.



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Out of curiosity, what good does this social Darwinism do? Idiots that can’t handle drugs responsibly just give the rest of us a bad reputation and cause problems for us. In the meantime, nothing weeds them out. Nutty addicts, at least in California where I came from, are remanded to mental health upon arrest. They don’t even go to jail. Often they are out in 48 (or how many statutory ) hours they must be held for. Then they are back on the streets bugging the rest of society for money.

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Social darwinism is incredibly important because there aren't any predators that separate the weak from the strong. Because our society has progressed to where mental capacity is more important than being able to fight off a lion effectively, darwinism must manifest itself as social penalties for making incorrect decisions. As for what good it does, drug addicts don't/can't have children that will prosper and are fertile.

[soon2bepro]

Doesn't work that way. Darwinian evolution no longer happens in humans nowadays.

As Richard Dawkins <u>explains</u>, evolution needs thousands of years of continuous natural selection for any relevant change to happen. Nowadays the traits that make some of us survive longer and/or have more offspring than the others changes so fast that evolution has no time to adapt. These factors can change over the course of a couple generations or even less, whereas evolution would probably need at least 150 generations for any relevant change to happen.

[Rduke55]

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Social darwinism is incredibly important because there aren't any predators that separate the weak from the strong. Because our society has progressed to where mental capacity is more important than being able to fight off a lion effectively, darwinism must manifest itself as social penalties for making incorrect decisions. As for what good it does, drug addicts don't/can't have children that will prosper and are fertile.

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So, based on this logic, drug abusers are being selected against and therefore drug abuse should be extinct soon?

[Hopey]

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As for what good it does, drug addicts don't/can't have children that will prosper and are fertile.


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Can you explain this? From what I've seen, drug addicted women seem to be more likely to have children than women who are not addicts. And these women are more likely to have more children than women who are more prosperous.

[ShakeZula06]

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Idiots that can’t handle drugs responsibly just give the rest of us a bad reputation and cause problems for us.

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Give us a bad reputation? To who, other animals? Aliens? As Chez points out, black markets for illegal drugs do more harm for us then drug users could ever do.
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Nutty addicts, at least in California where I came from, are remanded to mental health upon arrest. They don’t even go to jail. Often they are out in 48 (or how many statutory ) hours they must be held for.

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Then get rid of such organizations if they aren't doing their stated purpose. In a free market this is relatively easy, with government provided services not so much.
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Then they are back on the streets bugging the rest of society for money.

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Legalization would make drugs a lot cheaper. I've never seen someone beg for money to feed their cigarette habit while they've been legal. Anywhere you make them illegal however (or put really high taxes on selling them legally) black markets come in, and prices rise.

Regardless, privatization of streets solves this problem.

[Hopey]

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Legalization would make drugs a lot cheaper. I've never seen someone beg for money to feed their cigarette habit while they've been legal.


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I agree that legalization will make the prices will come down, but you'll still end up with people begging on the streets for their next "fix" (not for marijuana, of course, but for "harder" drugs). For instance, a meth addict has a very hard time keeping a job, and would still need to beg for money if the prices were to come down.

Alcohol is legal, but there are plenty of winos begging on the street, trying to scrounge together enough for their next bottle.

I'm all for legalization, but not because I believe that it will have much effect on the number of beggars on the street.

[AlexM]

Marijuana vs. cancer = old news

http://www.webmd.com/news/20000228/m...y-brain-cancer

[PairTheBoard]

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Marijuana vs. cancer = old news

http://www.webmd.com/news/20000228/m...y-brain-cancer

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This apparently breakthrough research on treating cancer is about 7 years old? What's the followup on this? More recently they've discovered it works for some Lung Cancers as well as Brain Cancers? This should be Huge news. Have they been allowed to research this on humans? If so, what were the results? If not, why the hell not?

PairTheBoard

[godBoy]

A lethal injection would absolutely cease the ability of a cancer to spread.

I think more research needs to be done - so that people can receive the benefits of a drug without the other effects.