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Old 11-09-2007, 12:59 AM
Milky Milky is offline
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Default 50NL KK

Really not sure about my line here... villain is 24/15/3 over 170 hands. Do you bet turn? As played do you call the river bet?

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Hero (BB): $50.55
UTG: $52.90
CO: $13.05
BTN: $20.80
SB: $54.15

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.50, BTN folds, SB calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, CO folds, SB calls $2

Flop: ($5.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, SB calls $4.50

Turn: ($14.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($14.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $6</font>, Hero calls $6
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: 50NL KK

The only reason to check turn is to induce a bluff, so if you check turn, it is because you want villain to bet so you can call a river bet.
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: 50NL KK

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Do you bet turn? As played do you call the river bet?


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Yes.
Yes.
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: 50NL KK

i minraise river, youll get looked up far more often by hands you beat than any J
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: 50NL KK

why wouldn't you bet turn?
he could be doing this with AK, AQ, AJ, QJ, 77, JJ+ and possibly even some weird hands like 9T (doubtful though). I think QQ/AA and often AK are reraising you PF though, so probably just AK/AQ/AJ/QJ/JJ and you're destroying AK/AQ/AJ right now.

By not betting the turn you're letting a lot of draws in cheap. He's also fairly agressive (aggro factor 3) so I think he's not slow playing sets/two pair often. The more I think about it, the more it looks like AK/AQ/AJ, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: 50NL KK

More often in this spot I am betting turn and checking behind river. Checking turn to induce bluff on the river works fine also if you think villain would lead river if you bet turn. As played easy call.
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:28 AM
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I would also raise a little more pre-flop with this hand. Just to charge the CO raiser a little more to play this pot in position against you. Also, it never hurts to get as much money in PF with your hand.
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:32 AM
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I think you played this well. Against a 24/15/3 i don't think you're getting much balue on the turn. I think draws aren't much of his range on the turn (9T already got there) and i think you only really get value out of KQ. You will also get C/R here on the turn and that's no good with a single pair hand. Call river for sure
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Old 11-09-2007, 03:37 AM
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I would also raise a little more pre-flop with this hand. Just to charge the CO raiser a little more to play this pot in position against you. Also, it never hurts to get as much money in PF with your hand.

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I meant to raise more pf, just a misclick I guess.

Also, I checked this turn because T9 just got there and he could very likely bluff raise me out of the pot. Also, I was thinking he might have something like AQ/AJ and wouldn't pay off 3 streets. In hindsight though I think I should have bet turn as I don't want to get drawn out on and I think he still calls with stuff I beat. I think bet turn/check behind river is a better line.
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Old 11-09-2007, 03:49 AM
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I think you played this fine.. nh.
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