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Old 10-21-2007, 04:52 PM
2p2J 2p2J is offline
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Default Re: 3 Bet pot with straight draw

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You dont seem to understand, I am first to act, so youre advocating I open fold?

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I understand completely. I didn't say open fold i said check and fold to a bet.
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Old 10-21-2007, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: 3 Bet pot with straight draw

I fold preflop, qj is a horrible hand to 3 bet oop. As played i double barrel although i don't like it.
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: 3 Bet pot with straight draw

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No one thinks its okay to bet again here on the turn? If he had a king wouldnt he more than likely raise? So he is either floating or has a ten or a lower pp most of the time. I think that is a fair assumption, and even if I get called I still have 8 outs. If he pushes I have to call as I priced myself in.

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Or he has a King and is afraid of your reraise pf, but not afraid enough to fold even if you go all in because hey, he has top pair and goddamn thats good enough.
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: 3 Bet pot with straight draw

call or fold PF leaning towards fold. vs an unknown I don't mind sacrificing my SB to get another round or two of reads on villain.
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:05 PM
SoCalQuest SoCalQuest is offline
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Default Re: 3 Bet pot with straight draw

Fold preflop.

As played, check/call turn if you get the right price, fold otherwise. Hopefully, he checks behind for a free card.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:05 PM
BishopsFinger BishopsFinger is offline
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Default Re: 3 Bet pot with straight draw

eurgh this thread is horrible.

bet the turn for about 2/3-3/4 otp

pre is a little funky but he knows that now guys so lets not have any more of thsoe
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:10 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: 3 Bet pot with straight draw

I do understand that pf is not standard, but I dont play standard either. Im sure its pretty aggro, but I dont think its spew either. As far as the turn, I think it is a must bet if I am going to get to the turn in this fashion.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: 3 Bet pot with straight draw

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I do understand that pf is not standard, but I dont play standard either.

[/ QUOTE ]This coupled with your "I don't donk" statement earlier(from KQ hand) makes me think that you don't know why you do what you do. These plays are standard for a reason, it's because they're the best option not because they're playing on auto pilot. Think about why you do what you do.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:25 PM
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Default Re: 3 Bet pot with straight draw

The pot's ~14, he has ~17 left behind. Because of your 3-bet preflop, you've created a big pot which really cuts down on the pressure a 2-barrel semi-bluff can put on him. I'd give up here, check + only call if he gives me odds.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: 3 Bet pot with straight draw

readless i prefer a c/f, with better reads and given the right villain i like a push.
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