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Flopping a pair OOP
I've been having trouble adjusting the way I play my marginal made hands in 6-max when I'm OOP. I played full-ring before, where you couldn't often get more than one street of value out of top pair. Balancing pot control and extraction OOP in 6-max is a problem for me at times.
******* Hand 1 ******** Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 6 players Converter Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $2</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $7</font>, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls. Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($22, 3 players) Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $14.5</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds. Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($51, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $33.5</font>, Hero folds. Uncalled bets: $33.5 returned to Button. Results: Final pot: $51 100bb stacks. Villain is multitabling reg who often does not pay attention to hands he plays. My line looks bad to me, but I can't think of a better way to play it. ******* Hand 2 ******** Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 6 players Converter Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $5</font>, SB folds, Hero calls. Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($10.5, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $9</font>, Hero calls. Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($28.5, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $27</font>, Hero calls. River: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($82.5, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $59</font>, Button folds. Uncalled bets: $59 returned to Hero. Results: Final pot: $82.5 100bb stacks. Only a few orbits with villain but seems loose. Lead flop? As played c-rai river? ******* Hand 3 ******** Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 5 players Converter Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $2</font>, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls. Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($8, 4 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, Button folds. Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($20, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $13</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $26</font>, Hero calls....? 100bb stacks. I have no idea what's going on here. What does villain have? Checking the turn for pot control bad? Bet more, fold to raise? If I bet more and villain calls, how do I play :spade" river? C-F? Villain is unknown. ******* Hand 4 ******** Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 5 players Converter Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG calls, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, CO folds. Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($14, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>, UTG calls. Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($30, 2 players) Hero checks, UTG checks. River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($30, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $15</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $45</font>, Hero ??? Should I have bet turn? Do I call this? Villain is unknown. |
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Re: Flopping a pair OOP
Hand 1 seems fine I guess. I might lead the flop, as much as I normally don't advocate this, to "find out where I'm at." Assuming the min-raiser sucks, he could potentially call with worse so it has some value.
Hand 2 I hate calling OOP preflop there. Either reraise or fold depending on all those things decisions in poker depend on. Hand 3 I'd fold preflop. Yeah it's a minraise, and KQ isn't that bad, but you're OOP with a potentially dominated hand. Turn is the easiest fold ever as played. Hand 4: $11 on the flop, bet the turn, fold to the river raise as played. |
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Re: Flopping a pair OOP
hand 1: call. c/c river depending on what comes and bet size
hand 2: bet smaller, like 1/3 pot hand 3: any reads on villain? i think vs unknown this is a fold. although in the heat of the moment i would probably call and re-evaulate river also i don't like donking into the PFR here on the flop Hand 4: again what are reads on villain? against an unknown i think i'd fold |
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Re: Flopping a pair OOP
To long to read. This is 6 nax?????? Probably wrong forum
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Re: Flopping a pair OOP
I'm new to 1NL after just moving up recently, so take this with a grain of salt and any comments you have would be good.
Hand 1: I probably play this the same. Hand 2: I fold this PF. I don't think you are strong enough to raise during this hand, and if he is loose I like calling down as he tries to push you off your hand. I would be checking the river to let him hang himself, that is a scary card for you if you have a one pair hand so let him use it. Hand 3: Looks pretty standard, easy turn fold. I don't mind a c/c either but that often makes the river really hard to play so prefer the b/f. Hand 4: I think checking the turn is fine for pot control. Maybe c/c the river if you think he will bluff it, but I normally lead like you did. I think you have to fold to the raise, but if he does it again call for sure. |
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