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Old 11-30-2007, 06:17 PM
manbearpig manbearpig is offline
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Default Two KK hands- check back or keep betting?

First rotation for the villain in this hand. Pretty straightforward. Maybe just get it in pre flop but whatever I think. Anyone disagree? But this is just context for the second hand.

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UTG ($27)
MP ($22.65)
Button ($16.75)
SB ($25.15)
Hero ($64.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $7.4</font>, Hero calls $4.50.

Flop: ($14.15) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $57.75 (All-In)</font>, SB calls $10.40 (All-In).

Turn: ($90.30) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>
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River: ($90.30) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $90.30

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has 9h Th (straight, king high).
Hero has Kc Kh (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: SB wins $50.95. Hero wins $39.35. </font>


Second hand. Maybe 3 rotations later. The one I want comments on really.

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CO ($25.65)
Button ($25.60)
SB ($9.65)
BB ($16.75)
UTG ($50)
Hero ($35.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.9</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls $2.05.

Flop: ($6.15) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, UTG calls $5.

Turn: ($16.15) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $13</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $42.1 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $14.80 (All-In).

River: ($86.05) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>
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Final Pot: $86.05

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has 7h 7d (full house, sevens full of eights).
Hero has Ks Kc (two pair, kings and eights).
Outcome: UTG wins $86.05. </font>

Does anyone check back this turn? The range I put him on was 66 to JJ, and maybe AQ+.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:29 PM
LOwrestling2001 LOwrestling2001 is offline
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Default Re: Two KK hands- check back or keep betting?

don't post results. hand 1, 5bet shove, see if you can get it in preflop. on flop, as played, nice hand.

hand 2 i don't mind stacking off too much because it is a protected pot. a note though, is that, a turn C/R from a villain is usually a very strong line that beats one pair on a non-paired board. No i do not check this turn, if it were a normal raised pot, it would be a good bet/fold spot, but because it's a 3b pot, i'm stacking off here (JJ and QQ are stacking off here to you).
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:31 PM
NeverScurred NeverScurred is offline
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Default Re: Two KK hands- check back or keep betting?

In the first hand I 5bet shove preflop. As played, flop is obviously super standard.

Hand 2 I think your bet sizing on both streets was a little too big (I'd prefer like $4 and $11 on the flop and turn, respectively) considering the fact that its a 3bet pot, and the only draws on the board are straight draws that make up relatively little of villain's range. Betting the turn seems much better than checking, though. As played, puke, then make a crying call on the turn.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:41 PM
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Default Re: Two KK hands- check back or keep betting?

#1: push preflop OTT of his 4bet

#2: as played fold turn. Villain has a set or AA and we are drawing dead to most of that range and mighty slim to the rest of it and we don't have enough pot odds to call.

If I think villain is enough of a donk to have QQ/JJ here then I'd call the turn but not be happy about it.

I'd check the turn behind and call up to a pot sized bet on the river.
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