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Old 11-23-2007, 08:45 PM
derosnec derosnec is offline
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Default KK facing push

villain is tag, 20% ATS. no reads in 3bet pots on him

3bet pots OOP are like the hardest hands for me, which is why i post them alot


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SB ($49.50)
Hero ($146.90)
UTG ($54.50)
MP ($32.10)
CO ($30.15)
Button ($67.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, CO folds, Button calls $7, SB folds.

Flop: ($20.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $58.45</font>, Hero
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: KK facing push

I guess its a simple matter of is he dumb enough to call preflop with AQ.
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:15 PM
MaltbyStu MaltbyStu is offline
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Default Re: KK facing push

Obv. we are miles behind JJ+ but adding in AK/AQ makes this a call.

After committing 40% of the effective stack can we really lay this down?
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: KK facing push

I think we have to fold this. Based on your reads, and his preflop play, I think we can narrow what he has to 10's, JJ, QQ, KK, AA, and AK.

I also assume he puts you on JJ+, or AK (assuming he's at least a second level thinker).

No way 10's shove this flop, and I highly doubt AK does this (rainbow flop, eliminating flush draws). That leaves JJ, QQ, and KK. We are crushed by this range. We are getting a little better than 2:1 on our money, but I don't think we have equity against his range.
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: KK facing push

TPTK+ is teh nutz in 3b pots for 100bb's, yo.

Yeah, yeah, it's over 100bb's...but you get the gist.
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: KK facing push

Im getting it in here like always. I think people show up with AQ often enough here.
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:28 AM
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I think u can put A/J and A/Q in hes range
So its easy call with 1 to 2 odds in you favor
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:32 AM
ImprovinNewbie ImprovinNewbie is offline
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i think you are commited here... just do it?
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Old 11-24-2007, 04:59 AM
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Default Re: KK facing push

Preflop looks like you could be squeezing so his calling range is probably a bit wider ( assuming he is a thinking player).

Also he might not give too much credit to your blindraise because he could think that you just got fed up with him stealing all the time.

Hand 0: 61.129% 61.13% 00.00% 19971 0.00 { KdKh }
Hand 1: 38.871% 38.87% 00.00% 12699 0.00 { QQ-JJ, 77, AQs-AJs, AQo-AJo }

If we remove aj you still have enough equity

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.611% 50.61% 00.00% 10522 0.00 { KdKh }
Hand 1: 49.389% 49.39% 00.00% 10268 0.00 { QQ-JJ, 77, AQs, AQo }


Hope my ranges are somewhat reasonable.
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