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Old 09-17-2007, 04:34 AM
FoxwoodsFiend FoxwoodsFiend is offline
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Default 25/50 Live Flopped Flush

Everyone but UTG+1 in this hand has 15k, only he matters though. He has 8100 to start the hand or so. He limps. In 2 hours I've only seen him get to showdown once and it was when he check/called 89x, then check/raised a 7 turn and got it in with TJ. Seems very straightforward old guy who's kind of tired at 2 a.m. and not at all a tough player. Keep in mind though that I've been playing 2 hours so my sample size is about 40 hands.

I've been playing tight by my standards but the table probably thinks I'm crazy because they're all a bunch of old nits who have seen me bluff once and think I'm a lunatic now because nobody at 25/50 would ever bet 3k on the turn without a monster but apparently I did once. I have played basically no big pots.

Anyway, onto the hand. Fish makes it 300 in, two callers, I call from SB w/3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], UTG+1 limps.
Flop (1500) 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
I check, UTG+1 checks, preflop raiser bets $300, button calls. I check raise to $2300.
UTG+1 goes "how much is it?" Dealer tells him and about 3-5 seconds later he pushes all in for 5800 more.
Preflop raiser says something like "Young grasshopper (that's what he calls me because he's an annoying old guy) I was going to do that if he didn't. Whoo-eey. Sorry fellas, I got to think here. He stands up, grabs his crotch,and contemplates the situation staring at me and folds. Button thinks for a sec, shakes his head, and folds also.

So there's $12,500 in the pot and it's 5800 to me.

Call or fold?
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Live Flopped Flush

this is wayyy closer imo if you hold 27dd
edit: but i still get it in obv
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:02 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Live Flopped Flush

call, you have 2 straight flush outs if behind
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:16 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Live Flopped Flush

cant wait to hear the results!!!!
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:59 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Live Flopped Flush

insta call, obv
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Old 09-17-2007, 06:06 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Live Flopped Flush

I like the fold preflop, to fire out on flop or the thinner check call, its gonna put u in an akward spot like this whether or not he flopped trips or a 10+ high flush which is about 22 hands once you get below 25 hands you have to play the hand to a T or your gonna be put in a spot like this, why check raise, im not even including the lower suited connectors which all goes back to preflop. I think you wanted to call this so bad you did and he turned over a bigger flush lol.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:05 AM
pete fabrizio pete fabrizio is offline
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Default Re: 25/50 Live Flopped Flush

even if you're behind you still win like 10% of the time, so normally i'd say snap-call. but the 3rd player's table-talk gives me pause, b/c it sounds like he folded the Ad, and I imagine taking the lone ace out of the all-in players range hurts your equity a fair bit. still, that probably just turns it into more of a groan-call.
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:33 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Live Flopped Flush

The sad thing is the only thing that comes across in your post is your rudeness. Why are you so rude towards elderly people? People that age should be respected and not mocked. Would you like it if it was your Dad/Grandad? Bang out of order in my view.

For the hand; call.
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 Live Flopped Flush

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The sad thing is the only thing that comes across in your post is your rudeness. Why are you so rude towards elderly people? People that age should be respected and not mocked. Would you like it if it was your Dad/Grandad? Bang out of order in my view.

For the hand; call.

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When I think of old bitter nits, the first thing that comes to mind is respect.

EDIT: I googled this!

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"Bang out of order" is very common contemporary British slang, and is applied to both situations or people's behaviour. It's invariably used figuratively, and means "unacceptable to such a degree that it causes outrage, offence or shock."

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Old, bitter, nitty AND British! Awesome.
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Old 09-17-2007, 06:54 PM
Ship Ship McGipp Ship Ship McGipp is offline
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Default Re: 25/50 Live Flopped Flush

man, they always have it here, and they don't think that a set is "it" and you can't ebat anything else they would think was "it" so i think i'd fold.

i'd prob bet the flop frequently and CR smaller to have more room for manuevering in the hand, prob to like 1500 or osmething
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