Absolute Poker Scandal: An Inside Job

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Oh.. and don't get too excited about the independent auditor. I'm already calling shenanigans with it.

By the time the auditor examines their system, they can easily cover up or remove any damning evidence.

For example, they could disable Account 363's superuser access. They could fix it so there is absolutely zero evidence that the account ever had such access.

Obviously AP would not readily invite a third-party investigator into their computers and files if they weren't 100% sure they'd come out smelling like roses.

The only way I would accept the validity of this "audit" is if the auditor works in conjunction with a player representative who helps direct what is actually examined. I will volunteer for this job, but as long as any trusted 2+2er is selected for it, I'll be just as happy.

What I don't want to see is this auditor being led around on a leash by AP, and subsequently coming out giving them a favorable report.

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I really, really, really think the Abso security dept is too stupid to be able to do this.

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I know they've shown unbelievable ineptitude so far, but now someone up there MUST know they are in big trouble now, you don't think at this point they'd make it a point to get someone who knows what they're doing to clean things up before the auditors looked at things?

EDIT: Assume theoretically Abso completely cleans up any trace of 363 etc, what are the changes of GA working with the evidence found here?

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I say they give Nat full access to all of their data.

[Kimbell175113]

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Most interesting about their statement, however, is their claim that Scott Tom hasn't worked for them in "over a year". Then why was he spamming crap about AP as recently as June, 2007?

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This is important; if we can catch them making clearly false or incongruous statements, that only helps us.

[ikestoys]

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Oh.. and don't get too excited about the independent auditor. I'm already calling shenanigans with it.

By the time the auditor examines their system, they can easily cover up or remove any damning evidence.

For example, they could disable Account 363's superuser access. They could fix it so there is absolutely zero evidence that the account ever had such access.

Obviously AP would not readily invite a third-party investigator into their computers and files if they weren't 100% sure they'd come out smelling like roses.

The only way I would accept the validity of this "audit" is if the auditor works in conjunction with a player representative who helps direct what is actually examined. I will volunteer for this job, but as long as any trusted 2+2er is selected for it, I'll be just as happy.

What I don't want to see is this auditor being led around on a leash by AP, and subsequently coming out giving them a favorable report.

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I really, really, really think the Abso security dept is too stupid to be able to do this.

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I know they've shown unbelievable ineptitude so far, but now someone up there MUST know they are in big trouble now, you don't think at this point they'd make it a point to get someone who knows what they're doing to clean things up before the auditors looked at things?

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They could definitely go down this route, but I think its far from a given that they will. Basically its all conjecture.

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ikestoys, Scott Tom has lied. And he, at least, used to be a big wig in the co. If I'm not mistaken he has an account on casinomeister right now for damage control saying a "superuser" account is absurd. He denied being Scott Tom, "pokermachine" here at 2+2. Adanthar exposed that they have identical IPs.

[imabigdeal]

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Oh.. and don't get too excited about the independent auditor. I'm already calling shenanigans with it.

By the time the auditor examines their system, they can easily cover up or remove any damning evidence.

For example, they could disable Account 363's superuser access. They could fix it so there is absolutely zero evidence that the account ever had such access.

Obviously AP would not readily invite a third-party investigator into their computers and files if they weren't 100% sure they'd come out smelling like roses.

The only way I would accept the validity of this "audit" is if the auditor works in conjunction with a player representative who helps direct what is actually examined. I will volunteer for this job, but as long as any trusted 2+2er is selected for it, I'll be just as happy.

What I don't want to see is this auditor being led around on a leash by AP, and subsequently coming out giving them a favorable report.

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I really, really, really think the Abso security dept is too stupid to be able to do this.

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haha c'mon man you don't have to be smart to lie.. they're already shown that

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when have they lied? they said that the play was suspicious, but they thought it was just a string of extraordinary luck. Although no real poker player believes that this is realistically possible, plently of non poker people I've explained this too IRL have expressed this same feeling.

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hey, you know gullible is written on the ceiling right? i mean come on you actually think everyone "analyzing" this over at AP is honestly coming to the conclusion it's not cheating? and they still know nothing about this lol. you can't be serious

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Most interesting about their statement, however, is their claim that Scott Tom hasn't worked for them in "over a year". Then why was he spamming crap about AP as recently as June, 2007?

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When did the merger happen? Maybe they would say Scott Tom now officially works for UB?

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ikestoys, Scott Tom has lied. And he, at least, used to be a big wig in the co. If I'm not mistaken he has an account on casinomeister right now for damage control saying a "superuser" account is absurd. He denied being Scott Tom, "pokermachine" here at 2+2. Adanthar exposed that they have identical IPs.

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1.)I was referring to releases from Absolute and actual conversations I've had with Abso Security Reps.
2.)Denying a superaccount as absurd is not necessarily lying (they could be ignorant).
3.)I don't care if he's lying about being a shill
4.)Does this guy still work for Abso??? wtf is up with that?

[0evg0]

I'm getting really tired of ikes' and Alobar's posts in this thread.

They're worse than the random 12 post retard saying that we're just upset at losing money.

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who is AK?

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