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Old 11-18-2007, 06:27 AM
Firedisc Firedisc is offline
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Default NL 10 - AA vs. loose shoving Player

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($12.25)
SB ($3.20)
Hero ($9.50)
UTG aka loose it up($12.95)[/b](45 / 6 / 1,67 AF / 300 hands leider nur)
MP ($10.55)
CO ($12.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.5</font>, UTG calls $0.40, SB calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $3</font>, SB folds, Hero ???

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Button ($12.25)
SB ($12.10)
Hero ($12.45)
UTG aka loose it up again($13.55)
MP ($10.15)
CO ($11.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.5</font>, UTG calls $0.40, CO folds.

Flop: ($1.15) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, UTG calls $1.

Turn: ($3.15) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $12.05</font>, Hero ???
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:32 AM
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Default Re: NL 10 - AA vs. loose shoving Player

1. Hand ist tough ohne Reads, meistens call ich den Flop, und lass ihn den Rest wegdonken - schlechtere Hände folden zu oft auf ne 3-bet.

2. Callz
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:07 AM
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Default Re: NL 10 - AA vs. loose shoving Player

1. Hand: Gibts jetzt denke ich mal nicht so viele Hände die er hier preflop einfach nur callt und am flop reraised. Denke er hat hier sehr oft ein J. Aber die 45vpip können auch heißen das er hier irgendeinen Müll wie A5 Overplayed. Bei den Stats kannste das hier eigentlich nicht folden. Call und das resliche Geld am Turn und River reinbekommen.

2. Hand: Call
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:48 AM
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Default Re: NL 10 - AA vs. loose shoving Player

Setzt ihr in der 2.Hand nicht Villain vllt. auf ein geflopptes Set? Versteh den Easy Call jetzt nicht, obwohl TPTK.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: NL 10 - AA vs. loose shoving Player

Jepp, manchmal haben Leute ein Set - meistens nicht. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: NL 10 - AA vs. loose shoving Player

1 hand: schwer zu sagen würde callen und bet/fold am turn spielen.
2 hand: rein mit dem geld

du solltest allerdings preflop mehr erhöhen. die erste hand würde ich so auf 7-8 BB erhöhen gegen solche donks bekommst du einen call.2te hand auf 6-7BB erhöhen.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:52 AM
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Default Re: NL 10 - AA vs. loose shoving Player

also hand 1 ist mehr als easy call, der checkraist dich da doch fast immer mit nem random pp, der 5 oder sonstwas, weil das board halt niemand trifft...

hand 2: er pusht aufn blank am turn, das kann immernoch n fdraw oder ne weake Q sein, auch das würd ich callen auf nl10...

1,7AF bei 45Vpip ist auch nicht grad so wenig, also muss er nicht nur die nuts raisen....
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:13 AM
Parvex Parvex is offline
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Default Re: NL 10 - AA vs. loose shoving Player

Ist der Turn in Hand 2 kein Fall von Baluga?
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:18 AM
horse84 horse84 is offline
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Default Re: NL 10 - AA vs. loose shoving Player

warum baluga? dachte das besagt, dass keiner n full house foldet, wenn du quads hast und dass man deshalb häufig openpushen sollte... wie z.b. hier:

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">CO ($26.85)</font>
Button ($41.20)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($49.40)</font>
BB ($50.35)
UTG ($68.10)
MP ($43.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, BB folds, CO calls $1.50.

Turn: ($4.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2.

River: ($8.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $45.4 (All-In)</font>, CO calls $22.85 (All-In).

Final Pot: $76.75
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: NL 10 - AA vs. loose shoving Player

Nein das ist die Zeebo Theorie.
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